Nope. Adapt. Or continue to use your favorite guns.

The game has gone from exciting and fun and exhilarating and beautiful and alive, to pale and lifeless and dull and tedious and watered down. Nerfs have turned our legends into bubble wrapped infants with pool noodles for weapons.

Yes, the nerfherders and the Youtubers are to blame for making the weapons make us guardians feel less powerful.

Totally agree, we are going backward and it's making me mad, it really is about time they separated the two, sick to -blam!-ing death of the posts on here too, if your shit at pvp don't play it! You suck at it! except it and move on.

One has to wonder if the retards 'balancing' weapons have actually heard of the concept of fun. If not for the Beta (which actually had fun balanced combat), I would think Bungie itself was clueless as to the concept of Fun, and in fact, had confused fun with frustrating. That would certainly explain why everything in this game gets progressively more frustrating instead of more fun. I just finished the weekly Heroic Strikes (you know the 3 a week that actually give us Legendary marks). I have to say, completing the strikes with my light at 333 was the most frustrating dis-satisfying thing ever. EVERY mob is now MBS (massivly bullet spongy) (or Major Bull Shit you choose) and they spawn a crap ton of them. Hey BUNGLE, fyi, having to unload 2 full fracking clips into majors to kill them is not fun! In addition to this they spam you with munitions that flash and blow up around you making they entire environment a shaky unstable flashing mess. Then you have the teleporting mobs, those now blink around so frequently that you have no choice but to fight them with melee or sword. The entire playthrough is now a retard-fest of teleporting exploding swarming bullet sponge mobs (that are not at all satisfying to kill). The one nice thing (i thought) was how many loot and legendary engrams dropped at the end. At the end of three matches I had 3 Legendary and one Exotic (because I used 3 of Coins every time and got 'lucky'). But when I decrypted them I ended up with three Legendarys with shit perks that were below 300 Light and a pair of shitty exotic Boots (for another class) at Light 334. The boots I have equiped are 335 so that was no help either except to infuse my second favorite boots. Now bear in mind that Heroic Strikes ONLY drop that good the first three times a week you play them, the rest of the time its just blue shit unless you get lucky with three of coins. In Iron Banner I actualy got the items I needed to raise 4 pices of gear to 335 (they were mostly around 329-331 before). That part was good, but, all i used ANY of the gear for was infusion. All the 'new' IB gear is low DMG crap of no actual use, with weak perks. This game bases everything around light level, but the ONLY place that light level actually does you the player ANY good is in Iron Banner PVP. In PVE having high light makes every 'rewarding' activity less fun (note i use rewarding loosely because rewarding is the last thing this game is).

"I don't understand the situation but I'll still whine about it"

Dont forget about Gjallahorn.

Some of the crys are from pve players that struggle in pvp, when you see people asking for nerfs, look how many kills they have in pvp and that indicates if they are a pvp or pve player

Crucibabies aren't the ones that nerfed the Gjallarhorn and begged elemental primaries to be removed.

Destinys the only game where ya go backwards in damage output in pve. Im supposed to be powerful, not a Luke smith replica. Soon my Zhalo will be nerfed as its all I use. Sick of scouts entirely.

Yup, because fun to pvpers is winning, thats it. As long as THEY win it doesn't matter how, or why, or at what cost. Thats why when you're 1000 points from winning they throw themselves at the enemy team like salmon jumping in the mouths of hungry grizzly bears. They don't care about whats logical, they only strive for the win and will do anything they can to get it, even if that means ruining the game for it.

Someone get this men a beer

It's a scout meta now.