Shotguns are currently highly inconsistent! It is absurd to think that they have melee range . It takes you being directly in a persons face to get a kill and most times they will be left with an inch of life left . Shotguns should be CQC weapons but be able to kill someone from a few feet away especially for high impact Shotguns . Also in PVE return the 100% damage buff it shouldn't take nearly 4 shots to kill a major enemy . High risk high reward is what shotguns are meant to be you may say they are in a good place and for the most part I could live with that . They still work still are competitive but ask yourself they how many snipers currently in this meta were once Felwinters lie users running around the map never using their primary . It's still possible to use that play style . I feel as thought all secondary's should be viable and work as intended . Not everyone plays passive make the crucible fast paced and fun again [b]Buff Shotguns ![/b]
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Yes please. The shotgun nerf was way too excessive.
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Buff everything but scouts n snipers.
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What your saying is buff last word?
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I'd prefer undoing the nerfs to handling and movement speed to be higher priority, but I'd like the perks back too.
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idc tbh
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Hammer forged is still in the game...
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Sniper sucks
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Edited by Kone19ps: 3/13/2016 5:22:49 PMHigh impact shotguns should just be removed with chaperone types to fill the gap. Then the other shotguns will be able to be buffed to usefulness again. They aren't going to counter snipers at all that'll take other changes but all archetypes need to be viable. These perks don't allow that so they shouldn't return. Also a pve buff. They are barely worth using anymore. Especially with majors being bullet sponges
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Final round needs a comeback but it only procks on crit hits.
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They are fine
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I actually mentioned this as soon as 1k started staring. The only way to get through to the campers is a buckshot to the face.
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Hang on a sec.
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They should also buff primaries so no one has to only depend on secondaries to get kills
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Buff shotguns, buff fusion rifles, there goes the sniper problem.
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Chaparone needs more range. Slugs should go farther than 00 buck shot. It was a lot of work to get an average shotgun
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Tbh with you, I'd rather have shotgunners back than snipers at any distance
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Shotguns are great the way they are:/
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I dont think shotguns should have any range perks at all. BUT should get an overall buff to range to compensate. Everyone just goes for all out range on shotguns all other perks are inferior, making the perk selection very slim. Taking range perks off would add variety without hurting them. (Because of the net range buff)
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Bumping for REFORGE!!!!!!
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Range finder is fine. Some shit guns have insane region anyway. I just want reforge bought back. There is no variety at present in the guns used
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Only if fusions get a buff also.
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I want all weapons to be brought up to their glory stats (the stats they had when they were at their highest potential) and adjust shit from that point as long as it's necessary. But that's just me.
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75% of support 24% salty camping snipers maybe ? Lol
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Bump for Truth !