I had nothing to do and still didn't have a 320 helmet so I figured I'd try and do an oryx challenge checkpoint with my friend (this friend isn't very good at surviving on plates and doesn't know how to run, idk why he isn't good at not dying on plates he just does, so I just make him stay on ad control up top with me even though he doesn't have a touch.) and we found a group, joined, and no one was saying anything so I asked if it was ok for me and my friend to be on ad control even though he's a hunter and explained that he doesn't know how to do anything else. I hear some loud Irish voice go,"well first of all sonny you won't be on ad control since you aren't the highest light (I was 317 and one light behind the highest), so I answered with an awkward ok and asked if my friend could stay on ad control because it's the ONLY THING HE CAN DO, and the irish guy just goes "no he's gonna be runnin since he's the lowest light" at which point my friend interrupted because he was confused just as much as I was due to the fact that I had already said he doesn't know how to do anything else, so I say to my friend "I guess you're gonna be running since you're the lowest light even though you don't know how" and the Irish guy answers with a quick "hey if you're goin to be a smart ass then you can just leave or we can kick you cause we won't be needin any of that in here". At which point me and my friend decided to silently leave because of how confused we were and we didn't wanna deal with people like that. What? Edit: The main problem with my friend isn't that he's unfamiliar with surviving on plates or that he doesn't know how to survive on them, it just seems like every enemy that spawns has a personal vendetta on him. He knows to help kill ogres with his sniper, and then kill his knight and go invisible if necessary to survive until the runner has the relic. But even all of that didn't keep him alive. I've watched him carefully and it looks like he's doing everything the way he was supposed to but even when everything seems to be going well for him, an acolyte eye might melt him out of nowhere or something. Edit: I guess the old types of raid groups from year one that weren't really bothered by something like this have all disappeared, I guess next time I'll just keep from burdening these types of players of their precious time and leave my friend out of it.