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Edited by kota:
2/7/2016 11:00:25 PM
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Firebolt Grenades are OP
For all the dumbshits that say "look another scrub hunter complaining" Check all my characters my Warlock is my most played and 1st created character you ignorant assholes . Trust me i know when something is OP because ive played that class for days .
Look im an experienced player whos played all classes , but there's one in particular that's overpowered and thats the Sunsingers , Viking Funeral and Firebolt needs to be toned down by ALOT , when im hit by ONE grenade i lose my shield and my health bar is halfed which makes an easy kill , these nades take little to no skill to use , an appropriate fix for these nades is removing Viking Funeral and adding a perk for Farther Range , and im tired of these firebolts hitting me through walls . Please up this post 🐩
80 Initial Damage i believe , 77 Burn Damage with Viking Funeral and Touch of Flame , ability to hit Multiple players at once , the range is stupid , and the nerds who use lag swtiches or have 3G hotspots have the ability to hit you through walls and curve around corners .
But you know thats not OP at all , not even mentioning your position is revealed for a whole 11 seconds , oh god don't even start with 2 or 3 warlocks using it in a Trials match 😷
If someone can counter my post and provide facts on how its not OP please reply below , but don't say its not OP because you don't want it nerfed .
Don't even mention "learn to dodge or counter it" if that's the case then why were the Sunbreakers Nerfed ?? All you had to do was dodge them ??
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3 RepliesYou have to use 2 perks to make firebolts good so it's not op hahaha I'm stupid
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It's effective, nerf it! Makes me laugh every time.
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For an experienced warlocks ur numbers are wrong
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3 RepliesFirebolt is Op, but thats all sunsinger warlocks really have as a plus. Sunsinger super is easy to escape from, melee means nothing last words and snipers self res is useful in trials but in other game modes is useless. That sub class doesnt have shoulder charge, blink or shadestep. Stop asking for more nerfs please. Since they cant escape from conflicts like titan skating and hunters blinking or shadesteping at least they need a nade to hold their own. And even then other nades like skip are awesome anyways.
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Shoot someone once and fire bolt them. You can track where they are. Void fang and trials....
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1 ReplyI can't wait for Shinobu's Vow to release...I can see the posts already lol.
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3 Replies[u]Total Number of Complaint Posts:[/u] Warlock: 4 Hunter: 2 Titan: 2 Post Count: 8 Alright Mr. Warlock Main. You added 1 to the Warlocks. :D
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A mature warlock has spoken.
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You shweat?
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Go that off your chest? You feel better? Think you can sleep now?
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Huntards are op so shut up
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7 RepliesI guess you weren't around when Viking Funeral and Touch of Flame did the damage they do now, only instead the actual Firebolt nade did 123 damage. They are annoying, but it requires 2 subclass nodes to be that effective. Quit complaining and adapt just like every other human being that's ever played Destiny pvp has to.
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1 ReplyI too am a warlock main, my other lvl 40 character is a 290 something hunter who's only that high because of the gear i throw on there from my 308 warlock (like 6 300+ ghosts for instance :P) and I do agree. Firebolt deals way too much damage for how easy it is to hit. With minimum armor it can leave you with a sliver of health if you manage to dodge all of the bullets flying at you (i know that for a fact, because I play with a very low armor stat, 1kys sometimes oneshots me with a bodyshot sometimes) Where the other most powerful grenades take special placement. Lightning and tripmine both need walls to get a good chance to deal substantial damage, and unlike firebolt, trip mine damage is actually avoidable for the most part in many situations. Stickies are not as reliable and although are a bit faster in killing barely are really substantially faster to take the time to learn how to use them well when you can kill two guardians easy with a firebolt grenade with ease. And so ya'll are aware, i mainly use voidwalker but I have a lot of experience with sunsinger and all of the grenades. However, the arguement that sunsinger is reliant on grenades is kinda not true. The self ressurection is why people use it, the melee shield is why people use it, the firebolt grenades however, do not need to be a reason, the other two grenades are fine. In comparison, voidwalker (which is based on grenades, seeing the melee starts faster grenade regen) has such a bad selection. Scatter is just... useless. The AoE one doesn't do enough damage to really be worth it (the burn on solar or having two of them with sunsinger makes them much better) and axion bolt, although the most useful, is inconsistent. I've had my bolts kill me, not spawn and instead deal 13 dmg to an enemy near where i through the grenade, randomly combust extremely prematurely, and on extremely rare cases appear to deal almost double the normal damage (I don't usualy read the numbers, but its like instant death every once in a while). Inconsistency is the worst thing someone can have on their side in battle, same goes for crucible.
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I guarantee if you look at stats from trials this past weekend the sunslingers have a sever advantage. I It's just getting really lame running into guys using warlock Viking funeral and just spamming grenades. It seems like it's getting worse every weekend. Maybe bungie should think about limiting one flawless run per week to a character class. Then you have to use a new one. People maiming 3 warlocks and saying my kd is sick... Of course it is. It's by far the easiest class to use in the game
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7 RepliesIt really isn't when you start to look at other classes grenades. Go and throw a lightning grenade or a trip mine and see how much damage they cause. Not to mention every sticky grenade can kill instantly. You have to look at the sunsinger class as a whole, weak offensive super but has great grenades and melee to make up for it.
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1 ReplyEdited by Jolt: 2/8/2016 1:04:51 AMU cannot say that a grenade is OP. A grenade is a fraction of a class. U can say that sun singers are OP. People have to stop comparing fractions of classes to other fractions of classes. U have to compare classes as a whole. I'm not saying that sun singer isn't OP but it isn't as strong as you make it seem.
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Signed
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1 ReplyThat's like saying broccoli is a vegetable.
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2 RepliesLook at it this way. If it was the Bladedancer grenade doing this, it would have been nerfed already.
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Bladedancers skip grenade does more damage. Firebolt is a nuisance more than anything so... QUIT YA BITCHIN'
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I just think the range needs died down.
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1 ReplyOnce people started to seriously complain about scouts and snipers the flood gates were opened. Nothing is safe anymore. People will literally complain about anything now. Can't wait for people to start complaining about shadow shot a support super is able to kill people.
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It's kinda not. Mutiple, yes. Absolutely. Alone I don't think so. There's so many other things wrong with this game I don't remotely think firebolts make top 10
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7 RepliesIf you played trials this week I'm pretty sure you agree fire bolts and Viking funeral are op. If you don't think so you probably only play under a warlock so you wouldn't understand the other perspective
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Skip Grenades do more damage and they chase you around corners
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Everyone i play Warlock mostly and i have more experience than your average player , anyone who disagrees needs to give facts as to why their not OP , the only thing you guys come up with is "They Cant Kill You" or "Dont ruin the fun" that is a very dumb and inexperienced response .
