I've been working on this one for a while now and I think I've tested it enough to finally confirm it. So remember the first phase of the VoG when you need to defend the sync plates? And after you complete it there's that little song that plays as the spire beam is opening the door? Well there are three different songs that can play there and I figured out what triggers each one.
The first song will always play regardless of how you open the door as long as you are playing on normal difficulty. Here is a video of me playing through the sync plate phase on normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yH_tgOWqE
The song is at 2:09.
The second song will play on hard difficulty if you lose a sync plate during the phase. You'll know you've lost a plate when the message pops up saying, “The Vex are taking control of a Sync Plate”. Here is a video of me completing the phase this way, triggering the second completion song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY6tiigVF84
The song is at 4:48. It’s kinda hard to hear over the shotgun but I included some links to cleaner videos of each song at the end.
The third and final song, the one that I believe is the “correct” song to play, will only play on hard difficulty if you complete the entire phase without losing a single sync plate. Here are a couple of videos of me triggering this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGuMuVVoesc
The song is at 3:21.
I tested each song multiple times to make sure that that's what triggers each one and that they aren't just RNG. I don't know about you guys but this pretty much confirms for me that there is still some sort of secret left in the Vault of Glass.
I would guess that the next trigger is somewhere in the Templar room since another song plays when you kill the Templar but I have no idea how to get it to change or if that's even what will change if that part of the raid is done correctly. The Templar song is the same whether he is killed on normal, hard, or with no teleports on either difficulty so maybe there is something that needs to be done during the conflux or oracle phases, or maybe there's a Templar trigger besides no teleports.
Also, as a side note, one of the Cryptarch’s pieces of idle dialogue says, “Now what use would creatures like that have for music? No... It's language. Code, signal!”, so maybe the songs have some deeper meaning if we translate them somehow? Anyways this will hopefully get us on the right track and get more people interested in finding the secret. I think everyone should keep in mind when searching for secrets in the Vault that they might not find anything if they haven't done everything right up to that point.
For reference here are videos containing just the songs.
Normal mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-OVbGEcsE
Hard mode, plates lost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TcirattH4
Hard mode, plates kept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w4DO34sI0s
TL;DR: Doing the spire phase of VoG without losing any sync plates makes a different victory song play.
Thoughts, theories, questions?
Edit: I think I may have uploaded the wrong video for one of hard mode success songs. I'll check when I get home and upload the correct video.
Edit 2: Yeah I definitely uploaded the wrong video for Hard mode plates kept. The video I uploaded is one of the normal mode videos I have so I'll change that as soon as I can. The Hard mode plates kept video that show the whole run is the right video however so if you want to hear the song and I haven't changed it yet just watch that one. Also I'll see if I have a cleaner video of the Hard mode plates lost song that doesn't have gunfire over it.
Edit 3: Ok all the links should be to the right videos now. I fixed the hard mode, plates kept video and put in a different hard mode, plates lost video because the one I had was hard to hear.
Edit 4: Wow this got a lot more attention than I thought it would. It seems like reddit is pretty interested in this kind of thing but usually my Vault posts only get a couple comments on the forums. Anyway thanks!
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Just imagine that all those things, plates kept; right oracles order; no templar teleport etc. truly lead to something hidden in the Vault. And now imagine that this thing is Xylar, put there from developers after all the stories about him, just to hear the first team to discover him going f*ckin' mad about it, screaming and shouting to each other. And finally imagine how to, learning that in the end, Xylar truly exists, this forum is ABSOLUTELY GOING TO EXPLODE.
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Edited by DL1BD: 12/5/2015 10:35:58 PMMy god if there was a damn secret it would already been told or found. Even the developers said there is nothing in several interviews and I believe that. If there is something it will come with further dlc,. They added more but it's restricted now
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There are no more secrets in the Vault. Leave that place and never come back. Leave and never return!
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Each section has a secret way to beat it that ultimately has a[u]Chance[/u]at spawning Xylar after Atheon.
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There's nothing there. Or at least there won't be until Jerry (he's one of the new interns) Flips the [b][i]content switch [/i][/b]
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Or maybe it's just -blam!-ing music
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You're chasing ghosts Bungie confirmed that there's no more secrets.
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Cool theory but I'm 99% sure the crypt arch music thing is a reference to Rasputin and the music he plays in like every Rasputin related mission.
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Cool! Songs play! How does this have anything to do with a goddamn secret lol?
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Good thinking, but after I have seen how they released the sleeper, and Challenge mode,.. I dont think there are any "deep" thinking secrets in Destiny
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That's cool bro nice work :)
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Yep. Some people man, some people......
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People will spend days of play time working on this, then a week later it will just be a 'fun' Easter egg that was planted in the raid.
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Too long
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Did you know that crota has other boss fight after him. It's a whole new mini raid. It starts right after you kill him, u go back orbit then you'll see a new mini raid. It's called bungie has no time for old raids right now
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Quit hoping Bungie is capable of actual content.
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This sounds interesting. Keep Us updated :D
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[quote]I've been working on this one for a while now and I think I've tested it enough to finally confirm it. So remember the first phase of the VoG when you need to defend the sync plates? And after you complete it there's that little song that plays as the spire beam is opening the door? Well there are three different songs that can play there and I figured out what triggers each one. The first song will always play regardless of how you open the door as long as you are playing on normal difficulty. Here is a video of me playing through the sync plate phase on normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yH_tgOWqE The song is at 2:09. The second song will play on hard difficulty if you lose a sync plate during the phase. You'll know you've lost a plate when the message pops up saying, “The Vex are taking control of a Sync Plate”. Here is a video of me completing the phase this way, triggering the second completion song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY6tiigVF84 The song is at 4:48. It’s kinda hard to hear over the shotgun but I included some links to cleaner videos of each song at the end. The third and final song, the one that I believe is the “correct” song to play, will only play on hard difficulty if you complete the entire phase without losing a single sync plate. Here are a couple of videos of me triggering this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGuMuVVoesc The song is at 3:21. I tested each song multiple times to make sure that that's what triggers each one and that they aren't just RNG. I don't know about you guys but this pretty much confirms for me that there is still some sort of secret left in the Vault of Glass. I would guess that the next trigger is somewhere in the Templar room since another song plays when you kill the Templar but I have no idea how to get it to change or if that's even what will change if that part of the raid is done correctly. The Templar song is the same whether he is killed on normal, hard, or with no teleports on either difficulty so maybe there is something that needs to be done during the conflux or oracle phases, or maybe there's a Templar trigger besides no teleports. Also, as a side note, one of the Cryptarch’s pieces of idle dialogue says, “Now what use would creatures like that have for music? No... It's language. Code, signal!”, so maybe the songs have some deeper meaning if we translate them somehow? Anyways this will hopefully get us on the right track and get more people interested in finding the secret. I think everyone should keep in mind when searching for secrets in the Vault that they might not find anything if they haven't done everything right up to that point. For reference here are videos containing just the songs. Normal mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-OVbGEcsE Hard mode, plates lost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TcirattH4 Hard mode, plates kept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w4DO34sI0s TL;DR: Doing the spire phase of VoG without losing any sync plates makes a different victory song play. Thoughts, theories, questions? Edit: I think I may have uploaded the wrong video for one of hard mode success songs. I'll check when I get home and upload the correct video. Edit 2: Yeah I definitely uploaded the wrong video for Hard mode plates kept. The video I uploaded is one of the normal mode videos I have so I'll change that as soon as I can. The Hard mode plates kept video that show the whole run is the right video however so if you want to hear the song and I haven't changed it yet just watch that one. Also I'll see if I have a cleaner video of the Hard mode plates lost song that doesn't have gunfire over it. Edit 3: Ok all the links should be to the right videos now. I fixed the hard mode, plates kept video and put in a different hard mode, plates lost video because the one I had was hard to hear. Edit 4: Wow this got a lot more attention than I thought it would. It seems like reddit is pretty interested in this kind of thing but usually my Vault posts only get a couple comments on the forums. Anyway thanks![/quote]
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It would be so nice to have something new with the VoG since most people (including me) claim it's the "best" (most enjoyable/fun) raid of the 3
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This would mean people would play VoG again,so keep searching.
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Just get bungie to confirm if they're still a secret in the vault. So you're not spent wasting your time doing noting.
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I wonder if this has any connection to the oracles. I learned way back in year 1 they could be one shot dead with a good shotty when they first show up to give you the locations. I've just never had a fire team willing to spread out and try killing them before the event started.
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Soundwaves can shatter glass if the resonance frequency matches. (Or something smart like that) Maybe all the songs and sounds are there to tell you that you need to use a gun(s) that fires at a certain pitch to break some glass/crystals.
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been working at it . . . since before dark below . . . *turns around* there following me. I've had to mask my identity so they don't find me *twitches* the timeline, simulation . . . execute it, but do not destroy it. he is normal, yet different to us. we killed one like him, more than one. 3. now 4, with him involved. him, he, his . . . What in the universe is that? nothing . . . it's not in our universe . . .
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That's really interesting. With the Templar I've heard rumors like if you can stop him from teleporting that's supposed to do something... I've also heard things like if none of you die and then go down the jump maze a chest appears at the portal...but doesn't give you anything good.