All i gotta say is that, they dont really care about us. "Michael jackson"

I hope bungie reads this

[quote]In Year 1, we as a player base have put up with a lot. You took away the loot cave, the one thing the community created. Something that created friendships, created rivals, and brought a lot of people on hoping for that one golden egg. You took it away, and we all said "Well I'm angry, but you actually made purples drop purples now. They're rarer than they were, but at least I get good stuff now." You gave us the raid, gave us the hardest gun to achieve and brought it to it's knees just as quick. We all said "Yeah, a 50 mag size and higher time to kill than even auto rifles was a bit overboard. It was a super hard gun to get, but it does need toned down" We eventually said the same to auto rifles, but you kept nerfing them until they were trash. Weapons have unfortunately always been this way, but we've rolled with it because diversity. Except the hand cannon meta for 6 months. That was utter crap, and you know it. Shotguns are going the way of the auto rifle right now, and it's quite sad. We (Well, not we here, because I had no idea you could do this until after they patched it) used in game mechanics that make enemies back away from grenades to push off raid bosses. We said "That's fair, it was cheap and made the whole thing not seem as worth it". We then received The Dark Below, the most lackluster DLC for a game I've seen. We all said "Well it's out fault for buying the season pass. We should have waited". Then House of Wolves came out. We had no raid, the Prison of Elders and Trials of Osiris broke apart our teams we'd formed bonds with because we needed the best members because it was limited to 3 people. We said "I'm bitter about it, but they never promised a raid, so I guess it's fine" Then we hear about TTK. "Hey, people who haven't played yet! You can get everything that our 'loyal' customers have bought for a grand total of$140, for just $60 (Because our game had so many hostile reactions that the market value plummeted far more than any other game in a year)! We'll even give you exclusive rewards that those already playing can't get, they'd have to buy everything all over again to do so" We said "That's not fair Bungie. We deserve to get these things too for playing for so long!" And Bungie was like "We done goofed, 'loyal' customers, so here, for a simple $20, you can get some exotics, emotes, and shaders that you'll probably vault anyway." We became divided on this stance of paying for cosmetics that still permeates today. The majority however, whether reluctant or gung-ho, accepted it, and it stayed in. Then you decide to charge more money for stuff, even making the two things everyone wanted expensive enough people would have to spend extra money for them. We cried wolf, but were silenced by those saying "It's cosmetic. It isn't hurting the game, you don't have to get it, and it's not moving past cosmetics" Again, the majority has accepted it, maybe even spent some money, and moved on. And now, you do refer a friend. The majority of us have already gotten our friends to get this game long ago. We have formed out groups, and don't need more people in because we already have more than 6 we talk with on a regular basis. You make it so we can't get this stuff without paying for a second account to have PSN/Gold so we can get this stuff. But wait! For three easy payments of $49.95, they can be yours today! I assume this is what will happen within a few weeks. I had actually planned to make this comical using that part, but this just seemed like such a huge scam for more money I couldn't bring myself to do it. Bungie, you're treading on thin ice here with many people. Think wisely about how you want to play this out. And for the love of God, don't let Luke Smith or Deej say anything about this stuff. Both have been bad PR for a bit now, and you can't afford too much more. I don't want to quit this game, Bungie, but you're making it very hard to want to keep going with this middle finger you keep giving to existing players and free candy to the new ones. Eventually, you will run out of new players and by then the old ones will have probably left and won't be coming back. TLDR; Don't comment if you didn't read the whole thing. Edit: Holy butternuts, I've never had this many replies or upvotes before. I haven't had a chance to read/reply to everyone, and doubt I will, but for those who commented, good or bad, thank you for your input. Edit 2: Broke 1000 replies. Thank you all, both those who agree and those who don't. It's good to have the differing opinions, that's what makes us unique. I've been on a plane all day with no internet, so I haven't gotten to read everything from people, but I will try to go through and read all the posts, maybe make a comment or two.[/quote]

[quote]In Year 1, we as a player base have put up with a lot. You took away the loot cave, the one thing the community created. Something that created friendships, created rivals, and brought a lot of people on hoping for that one golden egg. You took it away, and we all said "Well I'm angry, but you actually made purples drop purples now. They're rarer than they were, but at least I get good stuff now." You gave us the raid, gave us the hardest gun to achieve and brought it to it's knees just as quick. We all said "Yeah, a 50 mag size and higher time to kill than even auto rifles was a bit overboard. It was a super hard gun to get, but it does need toned down" We eventually said the same to auto rifles, but you kept nerfing them until they were trash. Weapons have unfortunately always been this way, but we've rolled with it because diversity. Except the hand cannon meta for 6 months. That was utter crap, and you know it. Shotguns are going the way of the auto rifle right now, and it's quite sad. We (Well, not we here, because I had no idea you could do this until after they patched it) used in game mechanics that make enemies back away from grenades to push off raid bosses. We said "That's fair, it was cheap and made the whole thing not seem as worth it". We then received The Dark Below, the most lackluster DLC for a game I've seen. We all said "Well it's out fault for buying the season pass. We should have waited". Then House of Wolves came out. We had no raid, the Prison of Elders and Trials of Osiris broke apart our teams we'd formed bonds with because we needed the best members because it was limited to 3 people. We said "I'm bitter about it, but they never promised a raid, so I guess it's fine" Then we hear about TTK. "Hey, people who haven't played yet! You can get everything that our 'loyal' customers have bought for a grand total of$140, for just $60 (Because our game had so many hostile reactions that the market value plummeted far more than any other game in a year)! We'll even give you exclusive rewards that those already playing can't get, they'd have to buy everything all over again to do so" We said "That's not fair Bungie. We deserve to get these things too for playing for so long!" And Bungie was like "We done goofed, 'loyal' customers, so here, for a simple $20, you can get some exotics, emotes, and shaders that you'll probably vault anyway." We became divided on this stance of paying for cosmetics that still permeates today. The majority however, whether reluctant or gung-ho, accepted it, and it stayed in. Then you decide to charge more money for stuff, even making the two things everyone wanted expensive enough people would have to spend extra money for them. We cried wolf, but were silenced by those saying "It's cosmetic. It isn't hurting the game, you don't have to get it, and it's not moving past cosmetics" Again, the majority has accepted it, maybe even spent some money, and moved on. And now, you do refer a friend. The majority of us have already gotten our friends to get this game long ago. We have formed out groups, and don't need more people in because we already have more than 6 we talk with on a regular basis. You make it so we can't get this stuff without paying for a second account to have PSN/Gold so we can get this stuff. But wait! For three easy payments of $49.95, they can be yours today! I assume this is what will happen within a few weeks. I had actually planned to make this comical using that part, but this just seemed like such a huge scam for more money I couldn't bring myself to do it. Bungie, you're treading on thin ice here with many people. Think wisely about how you want to play this out. And for the love of God, don't let Luke Smith or Deej say anything about this stuff. Both have been bad PR for a bit now, and you can't afford too much more. I don't want to quit this game, Bungie, but you're making it very hard to want to keep going with this middle finger you keep giving to existing players and free candy to the new ones. Eventually, you will run out of new players and by then the old ones will have probably left and won't be coming back. TLDR; Don't comment if you didn't read the whole thing. Edit: Holy butternuts, I've never had this many replies or upvotes before. I haven't had a chance to read/reply to everyone, and doubt I will, but for those who commented, good or bad, thank you for your input. Edit 2: Broke 1000 replies. Thank you all, both those who agree and those who don't. It's good to have the differing opinions, that's what makes us unique. I've been on a plane all day with no internet, so I haven't gotten to read everything from people, but I will try to go through and read all the posts, maybe make a comment or two.[/quote]

I agree with this 100%!! Top post. Getting beyond a joke now!

Usually I 100% agree with complaints concerning destiny. But people need to get a grip. Lol

Yeah I have been here from the beginning too. I have lost 90% of my first clan to any other game and they haven't looked back. The veterans are getting taken advantage of quite a bit. I don't mind the gear reset as I played a lot of mmos in my time so every expansion pretty much means bin everything but it's the constant needing and upgrading the. Down grading that really frustrates me. The gun nerfs the skill nerfs and the list goes on. Stop introducing things just to take them away from us.

Your tldr sucked.

Bump

Well put, thanks.

ive been playing since the game was released, and i agree with most of what you said. but, im already over it. besides veterans have been pretty whiny lately and getting their way for awhile now. like spoiled children. so, meh. let em do whatever they want. just keep giving me more decent dlc like ttk and i'll keep buying. im also pretty sure theyve already run out of new players, isnt that the whole purpose of the deter a friend program?

I find Iron Banner much more fun than raid. Got some items that were over 310 for a change,

Signed.

One thing I would add to that is Xur. Face it, Xur has been selling an awful lot of year 1 items. Not only does he sell year one's, they are only 280 or 290 (I don't remember which one). Since there are Legacy engrams, why not just have them spawn in at a 280-290? Let Xur randomize the light level between 300-310? I mean, it is a blackmarket type system, so why not make it act like one? I'd rather gamble my light level with an exotic than it spawn in at a 280-290, and be a year 2 exotic. Just my opinion though! :)

Agree exept the loot gave part, they made legendary engrams drop rate higher and changed that legendarys only decrypt for legenrady or exotic now + loot gave was so boring anyways that i prefer getting more legendarys when im just playing normal activitys like strikes, raids, crusible, court of oryx etc :)

Neck bumps lol

bump

We disagree.

Bump

Bump

Give this man a medal!! I'm usually all for differing opinions, but anyone who disagrees with this post is a idiot. An idiot living in denial.

I agree with many of what is said here... Remember who funded the game and sure as hell isn't or wasn't Bungie. Activision for now calls major shots with anything related with money.

I agree with many of what is said here... Remember who funded the game and sure as hell isn't or wasn't Bungie. Activision for now calls major shots with anything related with money.