1. Bungie is a company, companies make money, name one non profit gaming company that doesn't want to make money? 2. Why doesn't activision get hate for destiny, they are partners with bungie in this. 3. The vets get rewards too, such as: - Moments of triumph - The VETERAN tour 4. They are trying to make it so that the future vets have a better chance at getting things done 5. They want to make a strong community 6. Remember all of the things that we vets have asked for since day one, they're adding them. 7. they are trying to give players something fun to do, if everyone had refer a friend when the taken king came out, then no one would want to do it any more, they probably planned to add it right before black Friday, when a lot of people would be buying destiny. or right before Christmas? 8. please keep the forums clear, there are children and mature people here, after all.

Guess I will be copy/pasting this a lot as the forums are blowing up about this. I am a Day 1 player for the record as well.... Anyone who has paid attention to my posts over my time on this forum knows I am far from being a Bungie fan boy. That said, I will call things as I see it. In this case, as I mentioned in another thread, I have personally been involved with and managed referral programs and I work at a video game company. So I have actual real world knowledge on this stuff from behind the curtain. That link they provide is the validation process. On the back end it provides Bungie an ID to prove that someone was referred by someone else. This will help to get any issues resolved if rewards are not issued, etc. That said, as a business, they have to have some type of control in place to make sure the program is not abused. This link (validation process) is that gate to make sure they don't get burned and are getting actual referrals. Otherwise EVERYONE and their mother would claim they added someone. So that is part of this that people aren't understanding. The other part people are complaining about is that they referred X people in the past and should get credit for it. 2 things on that: 1) - I know this sucks, but the cold reality is, the program didn't exist when you referred someone therefore you don't get to retroactively get rewarded. This is not unethical nor illegal. This should be a common sense issue, you made your referral, the program didn't exist then./end. 2) - Let's say Bungie wanted to reward you for referring someone before the program even existed, how would they know who you referred? There was no program, so there was no validation process (no link to have your friend sign up through) so how would you prove you referred someone? Believe me, I referred people too and would love to get this stuff, but reality is, I have no justification to get pissed off about it based on the above. Luckily I do have a friend who is getting Destiny for the first time next week so I will be referring her.

You're calling them greedy but you're bitching you're not getting gear? Kay.

So I have 4 kids plus myself that plays games. Only one of my sons doesn't play Destiny at all. He prefers racers and fighters. So we did the refer a friend thing with him and he can not receive the gear because it has to be on a separate xbox that doesn't have digital installed on it. That is so lame. If your goal was to get people interested in the game I could understand. But clearly the interest is in -blam!- people for cash. Your day one players should be the core audience for gifts in my opinion. Good luck getting people to play Destiny 2 seeing as how things went with this first game.

Bungies philosophy

I believe BlueWestlo said it well. We Year 1 players always are so entitled. When something goes not our way we start complaining in the forum saying "Bungie is money grubbing" or "We deserve extra because we've been here from the beginning"

you know they are desperate when the actually have to ask for us to do this stuff

All my friends are longtime Xbox players already. They already have Destiny and the Taken King. And what's more, I actually DID refer a friend; I even bought his Taken King expansion for him when TTK came out! (still owes me $40, bastard) How are the true fans of Destiny supposed to get this new loot when all of their friends already have the game? Its bogus to put something that everyone would like to have impossibly out of reach. Why not just sell the loot at Eververse? At least everyone would have an equal chance at getting this Refer a Friend loot (controversial micro-transactions aside). This doesn't seem realistic. Everyone who would have referred a friend, or gotten a friend to buy Destiny has already done it, or those friends already have the game and the Taken King! This is just dangling a carrot that's always just out of reach. It aggravates me when Bungie/Activision pulls stunts like these. This would have been far better when the Taken King came out. This would been a great idea when TTK came out. Now that its been out for some time now, statistically speaking, there are far less opportunities to even Refer a Friend through Bungie's process. Its unrealistic.

I'd have to make a friend to even refer one. I can't bare societies pressures anymore...

Can you stop using your made up word "disgustipating?" Thanks.

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