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Edited by Cozmo_BNG: 11/13/2015 11:21:15 PM
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Feedback on Raid rewards

Many of you have expressed feedback on the current state of Raid rewards in [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173128942/0/0]this thread[/url]. Also [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173274395/0/0]here[/url], and even [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/173056904/0/0]here[/url], among other places. Rather than go and response to every post I am going to address them all in this post. We are listening to all of your feedback and ideas on how to improve rewards for completing one of Destiny's greatest challenges. I have made sure these posts have made it to the right people. I'm also adding "Improvement to Raid rewards" to the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140885111/0/0]#CommunityWishList[/url], but don't have any immediate changes to announce right now. Please continue to post your thoughts and ideas on how to better improve rewards, and everything else you would like to see changed.
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  • Edited by Grandeurysm: 12/7/2015 7:26:05 PM
    I think a great way of fixing raid is very simple guaranteed loot and leveling scaling on the loot for an example I'm a 317 with all of my best gear raid loot should scale based on light for an example you can only get weapons and armor 3 points lower than your current light level with a significantly higher chance of getting something 3 points higher and a low chance of getting something 3+ points higher than your current light level this logic should be applied to most activities with different point scales to match your light level. Iron banner should be fixed as such 290 gear just legendary marks 300 gear legendary marks and 25 motes of light 310 gear legendary marks and 50 motes of light 320 gear legendary marks and 100 motes of light Personally let's all admit it if you increased the drop rates of motes of light in iron banner this would be a great system for getting good gear Obviously the 320 gear would pretty difficult to get and make you think twice before using all of your motes to level up that nice new piece of raid gear you got Weapons will only be sold up to 310 we all can't be perfect we all need something to strive for Also the scaling system would apply to rank five and three packages ( translation you need to rely on Rng for the nice 320 gear ) Weapons will also be more expensive 290 :20 motes plus marks 300 :50 motes plus marks 310 :80 motes plus marks The higher your iron banner rank the higher the gear you'll be able to purchase All 290 armor rank 2 All 290 weapons and 300 armor rank 3 All 300 weapons and 310 armor rank 4 All 310 weapons and 320 armor rank 5 All the gear will not differentiate based on leveling so there will be no differences other than the attack/defense stat of the gear Also we should make it more difficult to make it to rank five ( I personally make it there by day 4 of the event ) we should up the rank bonus from completing a match and the amount of rep you need for each rank and then increase the amount of daily bounties to five or six Also the amount increase from the tempered buff should be lowered for bounties (personally I save all of my weekly bounties and use them and the daily when I'm at rank four and then I'm rank five) That just is way too easy to rank up by the point you reach rank four I'm usually on the third or fourth day which makes it way too easy with the tempered buff I want to actually have to work a bit and get myself halfway to rank five then use all my bounties and be rank five. Not just grind all my bounties when I hit four I feel like it's a little too easy.

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    • The hard mode sometimes doesn't even reward me with hard mode gear even when I don't do the normal mode, I'm not sure why exactly but I hope that can be changed so that the hard mode will always drop hard mode hear on every checkpoint.

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    • I got worm spore and shards again no armor or weapon JESUS FREAKING CHRIST FIX THIS WHAT THE HELL.

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    • I can run the whole raid without getting anything I need and when I do it's not high enough light to be useful

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    • Dear COZMO spent 3 hours on a raid just to get 2 moldering shards and a 304 shell wow

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      • Most of my Harrowed items are 310 to 311. Is RNG weighted to drop the lowest level item?

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      • One helmet drop and that's it from all the times I've done the raid. Also I'm still getting shit on by the vanguard and crucible "nightfall rewards." One shitty legendary auto, a Suros which I already had and it was 290 when I'm well above 310. And 4 -18 strange coin drops.

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      • I am so sick and tired of beating oryx on hard and only having a ghost shell between 311 & 314 drop. My warlock still has [i]never[/i] had a single helm drop, but I have a 310+ Kingslayer Shell for everyone on my friends list.

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      • Faction specific Bounties. Since the Rep gain for completing strikes and Crucible have been downgraded, why not have Bounties similar to the ones Petra give you? Challenging, few in number, but worth it.

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      • Psycho Sped Cat @Psycho Sped Cat Edited by Psycho Sped Cat: Dec 7 at ‎2‎:‎26‎:‎05‎ ‎PM Permalink I think a great way of fixing raid is very simple guaranteed loot and leveling scaling on the loot for an example I'm a 317 with all of my best gear raid loot should scale based on light for an example you can only get weapons and armor 3 points lower than your current light level with a significantly higher chance of getting something 3 points higher and a low chance of getting something 3+ points higher than your current light level this logic should be applied to most activities with different point scales to match your light level. Iron banner should be fixed as such 290 gear just legendary marks 300 gear legendary marks and 25 motes of light 310 gear legendary marks and 50 motes of light 320 gear legendary marks and 100 motes of light Personally let's all admit it if you increased the drop rates of motes of light in iron banner this would be a great system for getting good gear Obviously the 320 gear would pretty difficult to get and make you think twice before using all of your motes to level up that nice new piece of raid gear you got Weapons will only be sold up to 310 we all can't be perfect we all need something to strive for Also the scaling system would apply to rank five and three packages ( translation you need to rely on Rng for the nice 320 gear ) Weapons will also be more expensive 290 :20 motes plus marks 300 :50 motes plus marks 310 :80 motes plus marks The higher your iron banner rank the higher the gear you'll be able to purchase All 290 armor rank 2 All 290 weapons and 300 armor rank 3 All 300 weapons and 310 armor rank 4 All 310 weapons and 320 armor rank 5 All the gear will not differentiate based on leveling so there will be no differences other than the attack/defense stat of the gear Also we should make it more difficult to make it to rank five ( I personally make it there by day 4 of the event ) we should up the rank bonus from completing a match and the amount of rep you need for each rank and then increase the amount of daily bounties to five or six Also the amount increase from the tempered buff should be lowered for bounties (personally I save all of my weekly bounties and use them and the daily when I'm at rank four and then I'm rank five) That just is way too easy to rank up by the point you reach rank four I'm usually on the third or fourth day which makes it way too easy with the tempered buff I want to actually have to work a bit and get myself halfway to rank five then use all my bounties and be rank five. Not just grind all my bounties when I hit four I feel like it's a little too easy.

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      • I'm late ro the party, but realized last night that challenge mode is the fix for the broken raid reward system. The Warpriest challenge changed one minor thing that was simple to navigate. The reward was two 320 items. The Golgoroth challenge didn't remove the one orb method. It just added a simple back and forth gaze switch five times each round after the damage phase. The reward was two 320 items (artifact repeated). Next week I am guessing Oryx will be only changing runners each round and the reward will be a 320 armor and primary. For those that are frustrated, run the challenge mode portion each week and call it a day. The regular rewards aren't changing.

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      • Edited by Batz: 12/9/2015 5:58:10 PM
        There are two issues: * The bell curve for loot seems to peak around 312, when it should peak at 315 - giving us the same chance to get > 315 loot as <315 loot. * It's just discouraging to not get any loot at all. I've pretty much gone loot'less through raids, with the exception of a ghost shell on the totems, and more often than not I'll get nothing on the warpriest and gorgoroth. One or the other has to be fixed, preferably both - or some variation where loot is guaranteed and you move the curve more toward 313-314.

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        • Edited by SFC DEATH 10: 12/9/2015 5:19:14 PM
          I only want to know one thing, why do I grind my a $$ off to buy 20 moldering shards, To get nothing when i beat oryx, I want my shards back, or my 3 hours picking up flakes. Probably won't get a response from you guys like always, getting really displeased with this game, and that sucks cause I love it.

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        • The devs need to git gud and fix this problem. Sparrow racing will not bring players back. Quality content and fixes that have needed addressing for months and over a year now will. Give us a reason to invest our playtime into this game.

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        • I'd like it better if you take away moldering shards from bosses loot table

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        • I hope Bungie adds in a King's Fall Raid sparrow because Crota's End and Vault of Glass have one.

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        • Not sure what happened last night, but NOBODY in my raid team got anything from the warpriest - bar a moldy shard.... Usually somebody gets something....

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        • Stop giving me the -blam!-ing shotgun! I got 6 this week, all but one under 307. You said drops would take our inventory into account to reduce the chance of dupes. -blam!-ing liars

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        • Wow 18 gb update!!! For what? Crappy sparrow races dafuk thanks bungie

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          • Edited by SkeletalVenom: 12/9/2015 5:37:10 AM
            The game is a cool concept in general but the most annoying part is the long process of trying to get gear and weapons now. I thought these issues were supposed to be fixed and you were supposed to be able to level up quicker and get different drops more consistently but that's not at all true. Out of the nf I got the obsidian mind in the last two I did. I quit playing this game for a month because I have found it to be much quicker and easier to level up and enjoy other games but decided to give it another shot since I use to enjoy it. The raid, well, I played it for hours one day because everyone I was with wasn't great. And after hours of trying to beat oryx I got moldering shards. Wait wtf is that. I beat the boss and get nothing. The whole game is broke if you ask me or maybe this long drug out way of leveling up now is in some way good but I don't see it. You can't earn max light gear by the iron banner anymore so I have to do the raids. I have to play one raid to get high enough light to get to the other raid. I have to keep playing over and over because it gives me wack ass lower gear then I already have and gives me the same gear over and over wtf. I got three boots and three gauntlets for my first pieces and 2 auto rifles and rockets for my first guns. Another problem with all the pvp people crying balance its kind of ruined the excitement of finally earning a gun like galahorn that will finally make the game easy after the long struggle. Pve seems to lack in great guns like there use to be. Guns are boring now and all the same. There is nothing to seek now because the games so overly balanced for pvp when it's more of a Pve kind of game for most.. You just keep trying to please whoever cries the most and are changing the game to much. I want all my old guns back and the old leveling system to. Maybe someone at bungee can get this game right when it hits destiny two but they really need to stop changing shit and only add content for expansions.

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          • They suck

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          • Rard raid rewards are terrible but challenge mode are rewards are great imo

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          • Another hard mode run 0 that right 0 rewards Golgoroth challenge gave me duplicate 320 boots Yes I could use them on my other accounts but THOSE got duplicate gloves and dupe boots So dupes all around !!! And a dupe artifact wtf ?

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          • How about feedback on weapons? Overkill on shotgun, pulse rifle nerf (as expected). Yeah I think so. Fusion rifles? What are those? I'm proud of you bungie. You fed the sniping winers who hide in the back. Who's idea was it to give a warlock more range on a melee than any shotgun in this game? Shotguns are fast paced and you made them nerf guns for children. Who's ready for camp Osiris? I sure as hell am!.(:

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            • The only thing I would say is, don't make harrowed gear drop at 311 or under. I can't tell you how dissapointed I was when I got a Harrowed Defiance of Yasmin as a reward from my first Warpriest clear on hard, and found out that it had 310 attack, the same as my previous Defiance of Yasmin from normal raid.

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            • Not raid but why the hell did I get a tool kit for a nightfall reward, what I'm I going to do with a useless horn

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