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10/28/2015 10:39:43 PM
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Why do Warlocks suck in Year Two as of now?
I feel like it's because the King's Fall raid forces players to dish out as much DPS to all these goddamn bullet sponges called "enemies".
Look at VoG and CE.
They don't require nearly as much DPS and don't provoke as much elitism and classism.
However, KF is a different story.
Only two classes can add to DPS'ing and those two classes are the Hunters and Titans.
Now, I don't believe that Hunters and Titans should be nerfed, I think Warlocks should be buffed.
I can only think of three things in which will help Warlocks add to DPS.
[b][i]Adding a "melting point" effect on enemies who are in your vicinity when you activate Radiance.[/i][/b]
[b][i]Add some kind of perk called "Hungering Void" which acts just like Melting Point, which is activated by melee'ing an enemy.[/i][/b]
[b][i]Add a "shocked" perk to Arc grenades... Which act like Melting Point.[/i][/b]
[spoiler]The reason why I don't use Shadowshot as an example, but use Melting Point instead is because Shadowshot requires a bow to shoot, and a tether to activate.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyLook at VoG Need warlock to push atheon off Need warlock to push Templar off Need Titan for WoL Need warlock for self res CE Need hunter for Crota Need hunter for lamps Need warlock for bridge cheese Need warlock for lamps Need Titan for WoL KF I've only really seen Titan requests Every class has had their niche go back a year of you want to feel special in a raid group
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Because no one has tried to use them effectively now that Hunters and Titans take no skill to play. I'm just as guilty of this as the next player.
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They don't suck, people are just being elitist. If you are concerned about the buffs, you need one defender and one nightstalker or sunbreaker. The other 4 people can be anything they damn well please as long as they don't suck and die, can clear mobs, and pew pew at the boss when it's time for that. I like having a self rez warlock on my team, it means that we can have them do all the risky stuff.
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Self rez #warlockmasterrace
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LIAR. Warlocks can get nine kill streaks with stormcaller
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It's not that they suck it's just that with the introduction of the new hunter and Titan subclasses, people have become so fixated with the DPS roles and neglect other places in the raid where the warlock can be especially effective. Look at the sunsinger subclass. This should be especially handy for the raid because they can revive themselves with their super and on activation can buff the recharge rate of surrounding players, aiding in the application of melting point and others buffs. The tlaloc also fits perfectly with this because they'll be saving their super until necessary, providing the missing dps that holding onto a super can make a character lose. Not to mention the Stormcaller is amazing at ad control while fighting golgoroth and when dealing with ad during the beginning stages of the oryx fight. Tldr: the warlock has a bunch of different applications within the raid, people are just so obsessed with the new hunter and Titan subclasses that they neglect the uses of the warlock abilities to fill their teams with dps
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Kings fall doesnt require any specific class for more dps. U just suck at raiding.
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1 ReplyThey don't suck *cough cough* tlaloc *cough cough* palpatine *cough cough* self res can save everyone *cough cough* Wow my cough is awful
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True bro need to buff . You make good point . Hope they hear it .
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True bro need to buff . You make good point . Hope they hear it .
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1 ReplyThere is no option for 'they don't'
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With Alchemists Raiment and the right codexes selected under storm caller, the warlock is an orb generating machine. But yea crap at dps for some reason.
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Maybe increase the range and charge rate of song of flame so we help arrows and bubble come back faster, instead of the speck range and turtle speed it provides now
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Jesus christ u guys ride what that Datto guy said so freakin hard. So what is it gonna turn into now? Must be 310+ light and must not be a warlock? pfft.
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Where's the they don't option. Stormcaller much?
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Hmm...
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Uhh... They don't? No? Not an option? Nevermind, I'll just leave then.
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1 ReplyI'm a Titan and all I can say is Warlocks are extremely useful in all activities. They can melt adds with stormcaller, save us wipes with self rez, and destroy hordes with nova bomb. I have immense respect for the class, besides the ram, and my best friends are all warlocks. You ever seen a sunbreaker and stormcaller duo pop supers at once in PvP and PvE? They destroy everything! Its frackin awesome! So I disagree, warlocks are awesome and I hope there is more locks who can explain things better, since I dont have much playtime as a lock.
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6 RepliesEdited by Poloboyz93: 10/29/2015 7:53:05 PMWarlocks self rez if they make an error in KF hard, while you hunters(especially) n titans die on plates and popping your corrupted light and cause the whole team to have to wipe, and drag the raid on for 7+ hrs. You sure? Remember, it was 2 warlocks who 2manned oryx. Btw, not getting any further into class wars, your post is stupid.
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I disagree. Warlock remains an elite PvP class.
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Sounds like someone wants to be a Titan. Am i right? Jk warlocks are actually quite useful if you know when and how the supers should be used. Such as instead of using a super to kill a boss like a celestial nighthawk might use it to clear adds fast so everyone can get free orbs and chain off you and y'all can focus on bosses because all the adds are dead. That's what the warlocks I play with do
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Just run a Vortex-centered Voidwalker. Just like Striker Titans, Bladedancer Hunters, and Gunslingers, Sunsingers just aren't that useful in the Kingsfall Raid.
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19 RepliesEdited by ChromaCat: 10/29/2015 8:42:50 PMA lot of people on the forums say that stuff like Warlocks suck because all they do is save themselves. Excuse me? That's stupid. Know how often I like to play Sunsinger? As little as possible. I hate Sunsinger. It's the weakest Warlock subclass. Yet I am always told that if I want to raid, I'd better be Sunsinger with self-rez or I'm getting booted. Screw that. Sunsinger is trash in Kings Fall. I could sit on my Super the whole time and throw around my garbage grenades, wondering if I'm ever gonna die so I can actually do something, or I can be the other two Subclasses and easily clear adds with better grenades, melee, and supers. I don't need Radiance for skill cooldowns, I have Perpetual Charge, I'll always have skills charged. I have Pulsewave, so everyone around me can move and reload faster. We can do more DPS because snipers take half as much time to reload. I've helped take out Warpriest and Golgoroth using Pulsewave. Everybody was thankful. Try it sometime.
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My friend, I think you just play with scrublocks. Any class is useful it depends on the player like me, for warpriest I use void walker with vortex so it adds A TON of damage with melting point or shadow shot, or WoL same with the sisters. For golgoroth I run storm caller to clear adds asap, and on oryx I run sunsinger to tank oryx's so no1 else had to worry about getting 1shot. Warlocks are useless? Find a good player. Lol
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