Proof that Dredgen Yor isn't Jaren Ward There are 2 ghost. One is Dredgens and the other is Jaren's If Jarens Ghost went to Shin Malphur,how could Dredgen still have his for a time. Jarens ghost and Dredgens even have a conversation to each other in Thorn 4. Ghost are made by the Light,so Dredgen would not have another ghost with him. So it had to be the one he had from the beginning.