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Edited by Red Motive:
10/16/2015 2:23:11 AM
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Sunbreaker is not as Over-Powered as you may Think (New Iron Banner Statistics)
[I][b]Disclaimer:[/b] Data is parsed from more than 75,000 games. If you have any enquires about the data collected take it up with the collector whom you may find at the link provided near the bottom of this post. Thank you.[/I]
[b][u]Iron Banner Subclass Charts[/u][/b]
Curious how your Subclass ranks in Iron Banner? Here's a few charts to highlight a few statistics.
[u]Subclass Popularity:[/u]
- Pie Chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jAMKZMyjKKSIqkmfbidJfNnff9kc5cURiLl9Z7e9CpU/pubchart?oid=109707480&format=interactive
- Most popular: Sunbreaker at 21.4%.
- Least popular: Defender at 1.60%
- Average popularity by Class: 44.41% for Hunters, 28.2% for Titans and 27.39% for Warlocks
[u]Subclass Average Kill/Death (K/D) Ratio:[/u]
- Bar Chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jAMKZMyjKKSIqkmfbidJfNnff9kc5cURiLl9Z7e9CpU/pubchart?oid=1406256444&format=interactive
- Highest K/D Ratio: Gunslinger at 1.0945%
- Lowest K/D Ratio: Striker at 0.9102%
- Average K/D Ratio by Class: 1.0447 for Hunters, 1.0041 Warlocks and 0.984 for Titans
[u]Table:[/u]
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3opxes/iron_banner_subclass_charts_showing_average_kd/cvzco81
[u]Source:[/u]
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3opxes/iron_banner_subclass_charts_showing_average_kd/
[b]Edit:[/b]
I can not get to all of you and I apologise for that. Another thing: before completely ignoring these statistics try and take into account not only the super but the vast majority of the game as well - i.e. time spent without a Super. Because the Sunbreaker Subclass is so heavily focused around Hammer of Sol, it is left with a mediocre neutral game with few options in comparison with others - e.g. Gunslinger. This is what turns the tide and puts Gunslinger at top. That and the fact that Golden Gun is still extremely good. For example unlike Hammer of Sol if Golden Gun is activated in your line of sight your chances of survival are extremely low due to it being extremely difficult to avoid in comparison to Hammer of Sol thanks to the lack of travel time, lack of arc, high aim assist and so on.
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One question...how is the super balanced with even players with supers run....the only supers that shut it down cold are the supers that are not mobile (fist of panic and nova)....golden gun-snipe or shotgun....blade-snipe or shotgun melee....sun singer....snipe or shotgun melee
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That's like running tests to figure out if a nuke is destructive. Yeah, it's pretty destructive.
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6 RepliesI cannot believe me and my fellow sunsingers have a KD under 1.0. I also thought there were more of us. Sign if you are
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It isn't necessarily about statistics. It is about how it performers stacked against everything else. Hell, if you look at only stats, all weapons should be good at different scenarios making them all in a sense "even", right? But that isn't how it works. What makes Sol so OP is that there isn't really anything to counter it. This isn't about stats, this is just about in game playing. You don't need statistics to see that taking a golden gun shot and keep chugging is OP.
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1 Replyeven so, i think the damage from hammer still needs to be nerfed, because earlier today i was using a sword in rion banner (my bolt caster) and i tried to block a single throw from the hammer.....note that i had full sword ammo from a heavy drop (40 swings).....i died from the first hammer thrown at me. now, this wouldnt upset me, had i not previously been able to fully block 1 golden gun shot, with only 16 swings to spare
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1 ReplyStatistics and numbers or live data... Ima go with it too 2 point blank invective shots to drop an unshielded sunbreaker... Point blank the only reason I even got them off was the autofire and hell one of the shots was final round so yea. And it's not whether or not the one class is overpowered.... Here's titan Striker - overpowered quick release super Hammer of sol - golden gun with tracking aoe on impact and unlimited throws and boosted armour Defender - weapons of light = hawkmoon one shot, armour of dawn = insta captures, blessing is the only weak one
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Funny thing is all those titans have 5 kills all game till they get their super then their kills suddenly double.. most of the good players are not using sunbreaker due to how broken it is...
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I will take the guaranteed multikilling, game changing, match winning super over a faster -blam!-ing reload or second melee charge. GTFO with this crap about no "passive" perks.
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1 ReplyEdited by TXWmizore412: 10/16/2015 4:04:50 AMAnd for your edit of you need perks to make you better in non super time you need to get good... I can kick ass as any class regardless cause it's the guns that do the killing for me And what's even worse is when titans cry that Hunter or Warlock is op cause of blink and they actually nerfed blink.... Because titan is their favourite.. Titans in their own eyes deserve blink and several other combat perks plus 2 op supers and a great support class??? How is that fair to the others who have 1 ok super 1 op super and one shitty support super (warlock) or 1 op super and 2 fkn golden guns (bow in crucible is a golden gun in all fairness)
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Range Proximity tracking exploding hammers Roaming (long lasting longer than any other roaming super) Close range instant explosions that do no damage to the thrower. Regenerate health on kills Extra health can't be killed by goldengun. Did I miss anything. How is that not op. Try and compare any other super.
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13 RepliesUh, hello...has nothing to do with class you idiot. NONE of your stats are based on anything but skill and subjective preference. Just -blam!-ing wow...this is why the world is in such deep shit. Idiots like you will be in charge of it one day
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Didn't bother reading, I knew it would just be more meaningless statistics
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4 RepliesEdited by Merx: 10/16/2015 12:39:16 AMOh look another BS chart that is false
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But it still might get nerfd cause crying babies are loud and annoying.
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7 RepliesThe most powerful class is really the Stormcaller. I've been instakilled. While sunbreaker was active. By a stormcaller. And besides aren't supers supposed to feel overpowered? It takes a while to get an actual super ready for a reson. The reason being that said super, no matter what it is, is very, very, very, very, very powerful.
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And this is why Bungie will NOT nerf Sunbreakers. Once they gather the stats themselves and realize the hard data.
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Take away the health regen and it's fine.
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1 ReplyYou have some great PVP stats. Kudos
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5 RepliesJustify your sunbreaker all you want, but anything that can survive. 2 golden gun shots, rockets or a high damage sniper headshot and still survive is op as he'll.
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Seriously. You can dodge the HoS so easily just by jumping. Done it many times. It's hard to hit a flying target when the seeking perk isn't in use, and even if it is in use it's fairly difficult. And if you just run to a building, rather than taking head on with the Hammer, you almost always survive. So why no-one is complaining about Stormtrance? It's duration is long, your health is gets even higher than in HoS, it has great range, Landfall is like a Fist of Havoc, you can chain the effect and almost get the whole enemy team by only hitting one. Like what -blam!-, even once Titans get something good in PvP and you start whining about it being OP. I bet you liked your Bladedancer, you salty Hunters.
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3 RepliesSo even with VASTLY more people playing as other classes the sunbreaker is the most played subclass
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Edited by Kyddz: 10/16/2015 1:28:32 AMThat doesn't prove anything. SB is still op as -blam!-
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3 RepliesThere three types of lies 1. A lie 2. A damn lie 3. And there is statistics...
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EVEN THE SUNBREAKERS CANT BEAT THE LAG!
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9 RepliesEdited by Bee: 10/15/2015 9:35:01 PMI tried the sunbreaker for one day.... First hammer I threw got me 4 kills like a nova bomb... Played 5 games with nearly a 3 kd... Locked sunbreaker away & washed myself for 5 hours for feeling so dirty/cheap. Oh. The sunbreaker subclass was only half finished when I went in
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Edited by ConnorCT10: 10/16/2015 12:56:04 AMI know if I was to use SUNBREAKER my kd would jump from 2 to 3 so nerf it All the try hard a run Titan now
