You guys, I stumbled across this last night when I was reading through the Book of Sorrows Grimiore. During certain passages the worms that make a pact with Oryx and his sisters use the exact same language and cadence that the Ahamkara use. From Book V: “The worm speaks: It was my father’s familiar. I ripped it from him as we fled. It is a dead white thing, segmented, washed up from the deep sea. It’s dead but it still speaks to me. It says: listen closely, oh vengeance mine…” I believe that the Ahamkara are the worms that are described in the Book of Sorrows. Here’s more evidence. Pulling from the Grimiore card Ghost Fragment: Legends 3 The Great Ahamkara Hunt, we know that Guardians used to hear the call of the dragons and because of this they were hunted to extinction. But, in that same grimiore card it also ends with, “And thus the Ahamkara were made extinct, their call silenced, their solipsistic flatteries, erased, their great design – if it ever existed- broken. Of this you can be assured, oh reader mine.” Which leads us to believe that even though they were all killed, somehow they still survive. What other species do we know that lives beyond death when they are killed in the material realm? The Hive. Crota and Oryx cannot be slain unless they are killed on their Throne Worlds. We also know, thanks to the Book of Sorrows that the idea of a Throne World was taken from the worms that granted Oryx his power. Book 12: “Your body is gone, but you have endured. Safe in the cyst universe created by your own might—your throne world. From this day forward Auryx, you and your sisters will each survive death—so long as you aren’t killed in your own throne.” Oryx even travels to a Throne World to slay his god, Akka. Meaning the Worms themselves have Throne Worlds. You can read about it in Book XXVIII. Could it be that the Ahamkara are the same way? If they are the Worms the Books are talking about, then the only way to really kill them would be to travel to their Throne Worlds and slay them there. Even reading about the description of the worms from the book of sorrows Book IX: The Worm’s description of itself: “I am Yul, the Honest Worm. Behold my vast displacement, my ponderous strength, my great and coiling length, my folded jaws and curled wings. Behold the hiving cities symbiotic with my flesh. I am fecund, Aurash. I am at the beginning and end of lives.” I don’t know about you, but I’ve never heard of a worm having wings or jaws. This sounds more like a dragon than a worm. Even the word “Worm” could be a reference to “Wyrm”. We know from reading the Book of Sorrows other words have different spellings and meanings. Like Oryx’s spelling of his own name, the Hive refer to him as Auryx and his enemies call him Oryx. Could this be the same situation? Here’s more evidence pulled from Book XII: Direct quote from the Worms: “Reality is a fine flesh, oh general ours. Let us feast of it.” Direct quote from the Skull of a Dire Ahamakra: Reality is the finest flesh, oh bearer mine. And are you not…hungry? We also know that the Ahamkara promised guardians power and because of this they were hunted to supposed extinction. If we read Book IX we know that the worms promised Oryx and his sisters power in exchange for forming a symbiotic relationship with them. Could it be that the dragons were forming a similar relationship with guardians who were willing? If you read the flavor text from the Ahamkara it seems like they want guardians who wear their body parts to destroy reality itself. I think with all of this combined we can really make a case for the Ahamkara being the ultimate evil in the universe that helped give birth to the Hive. What do you guys think? Please feel free to add on to this. I just developed this theory last night.