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FWC is BEST for HandCannons Users! A list of Hand Cannons that are like Fatebringer 2.0 w/ Firefly Perk!

https://www.bungie.net/en/Vendors/2/4611686018428846384/2305843009216494899?vendor=1821699360&category=2 [b]ALL OMOLON Hand Cannons can RNG FIREFLY or OUTLAW, NOT BOTH. This Post contains ALL HAND CANNONS that can roll FIREFLY. VANITY is merely ONE of MANY Hand Cannons that can RNG the FIREFLY perk, but it's the easiest to obtain through the FWC vendor purchase.[/b] Thus if you're into Hand Cannons, Legacy year one gear from 2014 or into PVE more then Crucible, FWC is your best Faction. [b]Example of a Easy to get Hand Cannon with Firefly:[/b] [armory]Vanity[/armory] <- [u]HandCannon 150 Legendary Marks from FWC w/ Firefly.[/u] [i]Bar Graph Stats:[/i] [u]-Vanity has higher impact then Hawkmoon 2.0, Imago Loop, Fatebringer and Ace of Spades. The Higher Impact makes the Firefly effect for Vanity more intense then Fatebringer, Imago Loop or Ace of Spades.[/u] -The rate of fire, range, base reload speed (excluding outlaw) is exactly the same as Fatebringer and Imago Loop! [i]Perks:[/i] -[b]Firefly[/b] (used to be exclusive to Fatebringer now can RNG with FWC Vanity and many other Hand Cannons) -[b]Luck in the Chamber [/b](Makes up for the lack of outlaw perk that Fatebringer has and makes this gun sutable for PVP or boss fights in PVE) -[b]Extended Mag[/b] (Once again give the gun same magazine size as Fatebringer in it's current state.) -[b]Eye of the Storm[/b] (Yet another range perk to make up for outlaw and can be used instead of Firefly in PVP situations. Making a suitable PVP gun or PVE gun) -[b]Oiled Frame[/b] (garbage perk, you should use Extended MAG as it nerfs the range below Fatebringer stats) [b]FWC Side Note[/b]: FWC sells all the Vanguard Armor from Destiny Launch September 2014. If you're into that old Legendary Gear style with a PVE hand cannon focus check the link below: https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Category?name=infinite+lines [b]PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING GUN IS BETTER BUT ONLY RNG FROM STRIKES:[/b] -[armory]Imago Loop[/armory] -Note: [u]It can RNG Outlaw and Firefly together like Fatebringer! This will be a good long term goal to achieve for Hand Cannon users.[/u] [b]ENTIRE LIST OF HAND CANNON FINDINGS with Firefly Perk:[/b] [b]Omolon [/b] <- The Brand with the Firefly Perk [u]High Rate of Fire Lower Impact and fast Reload speed:[/u] -[armory]Down and Doubt 00-0[/armory] -[armory]Kumakatok HC4[/armory] [u]High Impact Lower Rate of Fire:[/u] -[armory]Vanity[/armory] -[armory]Uffern HC4[/armory][b] <- Banshee sells this on Arms day! This can drop better perks then Vanity![/b] [b]Non-Omolon:[/b] <- Other guns give Firefly Perk -[armory]Ace of Spades[/armory] Exotic (You have to have a Hunter, get to Gunsmith Rank 3, then complete the quest.-via. SpartyAnimal) Note: This gun has a lower impact then a lot of Firefly Hand Cannons. -[armory]Imago Loop[/armory] Strike Gun [b]<-This is the only TTK gun that can have both Firefly and Outlaw. But with Less impact then Vanity and Uffern HC4[/b] [b]LIST OF OTHER HAND CANNONS:[/b] [b]New Timurs Lash Hand Cannons:[/b] <-Has impact of the old Timur's Lash! Not a Iron Banner Weapon. -[armory]Judith-D[/armory] Arms Day package from Banshee https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?item=3883201938&itemname=Judith-D -[armory]The First Curse[/armory] <- Exotic Weapon Like the Timur's Lash: [b]New Trials of Osirus[/b] Hand Cannon w/ 310 Attack -[armory]The Water Star (Adept)[/armory] [b]New Iron Banner 2.0 Hand Cannon[/b] (Lame vs the Old Timur's Lash) -[armory]Finnala's Peril[/armory] <- Timur's Lash 2.0 It's the new Iron Banner Gun. It stinks btw it has the Fatebringer's Impact. [b]SPECIAL NOTE on Gear:[/b] -All guns from Taken King are Not Reforgable, Only Armor From Taken King is Reforgable. -TTK guns can be infused to up to highest year 2 Attack. [b]Special notes on other factions:[/b] FWC is Good For Hand Cannons, Pulse Rifles ([armory]The Villainy[/armory]) users with love for Fusion Rifles and Heavy Weapons. New Monarchy is For Auto Rifle Users with a 2nd liking to Hand Cannons and Side Arms Dead Orbit is for Scout Rifle, Shotgun & Fusion Rifle users. [u]Scout Rifle users beware:[/u] omolon can't get outlaw, suros can't get firefly (and only has one perk anyway) and for the rest they go in the same slot either Firefly or Outlaw not both. via. NEBO 117. Potentially they ALL CAN RNG something nice. It will take some time. [b]Keep in Mind there are plenty of other RNG guns to find that will eventually out shine Vanity, Vendor for sale Gear and year one gear that you may have loved dearly. This is all merely a good goal to start with and acquire. You may find better guns before you get the opportunity to buy this gun. But if RNG is evil to you this will be the first goal.[/b] Share comments below too! [b]Update 9/16[/b] Wow 57 likes along with lots of conversation. This is pretty cool, never had this happen before, it's a record for me. Thanks everyone and I hoped I helped. [b]Update 9/17[/b] 80 Likes Wow. Thank you all. This is cool. I reorganized some of this post so that it is easier to understand. Hope this helps. Also as you can tell I love Hand Cannons and no gun will have me change my mind. [b]Update 9/18/15[/b] The post seems to be slowing down in trend. It's been great and I'll keep supporting the post especially since were now over 90 likes. Thank you to all who keep supporting the post and liking it. [b]Update 9/22/15[/b] The Post is not trending anymore. But if you need to keep track of it. Follow: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/Default/None/Thevanity]#TheVanity[/url] and it will be easy to find. Also thank you to everyone that got us all up to over 110 likes ;) https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/Default/None/Thevanity [b]Update 10/13/15[/b] The Firefly Perk is causing your PS3, PS4 and XboxOne consoles to Freeze has been fix/patched already: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157438296/0/0/1 [b]This is Firefly Crash Issue has been patched. If you continue to have this issue please refer to the link above to report your experience in DETAIL: https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Update---10132015/en/News/News?aid=13706[/b] [quote]Technical Fixed multiple situations that resulted in the game client crashing, including the "Ward of Dawn” and “Firefly” crashes[/quote] [b]If you still experience the issue. It appears this is not the final resolution as Bungie is working on a bigger fix. [/b]-Updated 3/2/2016 https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/14232 [quote]Bungie is aware that some players have encountered an issue with the Firefly perk, which may cause Destiny to crash. If you have a weapon that has caused this to happen, please refrain from using it until this issue is addressed in a future update.[/quote] [b]Update 10/13/15[/b] Nothing to update other then that I've found Banshee to sell a great Omolon Gun with Firefly, Luck in the Chamber and Rifled Barrel as a Weekly Arms Day gun. Keep an eye out for it as the gun has double the Range vs the Vanity by FWC Representative. I've updated the above information with this too. [armory]Uffern HC4[/armory] <- This Gun looks slick by the way. [b]Update 2/3/16 [/b]This is a bit off topic. [armory]Eyasluna [/armory]<- Nice Legendary replacement for Hawkmoon.

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  • The firefly freezing problem with The Vanity still exists on XBox One. Had it happen this morning on Mars. Looks like The Vanity goes back into the vault. Not nearly as much fun without firefly.

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  • I have a Vanity with LiTC, Reinforced Barrel, and Outlaw. That's all I need.

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  • As I type this, the 'Firefly crash bug' has NOT been fixed. (August 4, 2016) I possess a Vanity Hand Cannon with Firefly. I am able to use it for a short amount of time with few problems. However, as I continue to use it, the Firefly appears to 'build up' until enemies either explode more than once, or corpses that have had Firefly activate on them explode once again until my game inevitably crashes. (I'll even provide a clip that was recorded after the supposed 'fix' occurred.) I'm an individual that enjoys Firefly on a Hand Cannon. My only recourse is to hope I eventually get an Imago Loop with Firefly, because I'm now convinced that all Firefly-enabled Omolon Hand Cannons are capable of crashing my game. #fixitBungie

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    • FWC [b]no longer[/b] sells [armory]The Vanity[/armory] [b]with these rolls[/b]. The new perks are: Third Eye Extended Mag / Rifled Barrel Life Support / Exhumed

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    • The Firefly glitch has not been fixed. I was expecting this to be fixed when PoE was updated but I was over optimistic in Bungie. I really hope they fix this because this pretty much ruins many weapons with this perk.

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    • Bungie is currently working on a fix with Firefly perked weapons this is NEW 2016 POST: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/14232 1/13/2016 [quote]Bungie is aware that some players have encountered an issue with the Firefly perk, which may cause Destiny to crash. If you have a weapon that has caused this to happen, please refrain from using it until this issue is addressed in a future update.[/quote]

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    • I don't know how many times i've reported the firefly glitch over the last 6 months. The Bungie patch is a joke.

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      • No mention of eyasluna? Mine has rangefinder/braced frame, hammerforged and high caliber rounds/hiddenhand 😁

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        • Edited by ZHX1138: 1/14/2016 11:22:46 PM
          Just a brief update If you happen to see Banshee selling the [armory]Uffern HC4[/armory] Buy it! There is a good chance you will be given the choice for a gun with Firefly, Luck in the Chamber and Rifled Barrel (this helps with the range and makes the gun better then the Vanity that you buy for 150 legendary marks. Plus Uffern will only cost you glimmer.) Have Fun.

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        • I had it twice and ended dismantling both, oh God why!

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          • The Vanity can freeze the game if luck in the chamber and firefly both hit on the same bullet... I loved the gun tho...

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            • Edited by ZHX1138: 10/13/2015 11:18:31 PM
              The Firefly Stability Bug that causes consoles to crash has been patched: https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Update---10132015/en/News/News?aid=13706 [quote][b]Technical[/b] Fixed multiple situations that resulted in the game client crashing, including the "Ward of Dawn” and “Firefly” crashes[/quote] If you continue see the issue occur please go post linked below and share more details or make a new post in the help section of the forum: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157438296/0/0/1

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            • Edited by ZHX1138: 10/13/2015 11:19:16 PM
              Update: The Firefly perk is very powerful and so much so that it can freeze your console whether it be a PS3, PS4 or XboxOne Bungie is currently working on a fix for the issue: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157438296/0/0/1 Notice it may happen particularly with any Hand Cannon that has firefly including Scout rifles too. Update: This issue is now patched: https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Update---10132015/en/News/News?aid=13706 [quote]Technical Fixed multiple situations that resulted in the game client crashing, including the "Ward of Dawn” and “Firefly” crashes[/quote] If you continue to get the issue please refer to the help forum post listed above or make a new one here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/1/0/Help

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              • Or you know imago loop is better

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                • I habe the raid handcannon with firefly :)

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                  • Edited by ZHX1138: 9/29/2015 10:05:25 PM
                    I have updated the post to help clarify more details about Firefly perked guns and leveling. This has been done because the information is less cutting edge and needs to be in a format that is better as reference material. A lot of the launch details no longer need to be re-stated or clarified anymore and thus have been removed. Also I've updated the picture too.

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                  • Very awesome post. I have the FWC Vanity and love it. Have yet to experience a freezing issue but I'll keep my eye out for it. I also had an Imago Loop drop but it had a poor perk role so I infused it into another weapon. Looks identical to Fatebringer just reskinned. Hopefully will get another with a better roll (didnt have firefly, luck, or outlaw. Main perk was grenadier)

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                    • My vanity has been causing massive freezing issues with firefly. Where I have to exit out and restart. I love the gun but recently haven't been able to complete a heroic strike with firefly without it freezing. Other Xbox one users have been reporting this As well

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                      • Love the gun and perks, but it is glitched and freezing people's consoles. Happened to me!

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                        • Bump for bookmark

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                          • Mine has bad perks roll... but i love the impact and stability. Range is bad tho...especially after the nerf.

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                            • I chose my down and doubt for marks, but then I realized it had firefly AND maxed out stability.

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                              • BAMP

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                              • Ace if spades is a lot better in my opinion.

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                                • Edited by ZHX1138: 9/26/2015 6:19:15 AM
                                  I've updated the title focusing the post more on all Hand Cannons with Firefly Perks. Hope this helps ;) clarify How to get nice Hand Cannons. Since the update no one hand cannon can dominate another completely.

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