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Edited by boff:
9/1/2015 8:55:16 PM
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wow........shotguns are so disgusting, ive try to be fair when getting killed by them thinking yeah thats fair I got out played he got me...but seriously majority of the time its like that range, how did he just run through my shots and kill me.
maybe flinch should take some one out of sprint so if a shotgunner charges at me and i shot him he stops running.
definitely need a weapon ready time from sprint and blink, and if there is one it need increasing.... shot guns are way way to strong right now and I cant see the nerf doing much, to many things make the crucible shotgun friendly, and if that's the case primaries need to have a fast ttk to stand a chance especially if you want to snipe or use anything else than a shotgun.
ive been able to jump away from some shotgunners but not blink, can do it but the advantage is way way way in the blinkers favour
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Snipers and shotguns are in a good place. Fusion rifles need to be buffed back to how they were.
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Edited by boff: 9/2/2015 12:24:31 AMI wouldn't agree with that, fusion rifles are ok, don't see a lot of them because everybody is shotgunning as shown by the graph. Shotguns are by far better and putting fusion rifles on par with shotguns would be a mistake, shotguns need taking down a notch. There's also side arms to come so we shall see how that pans out, but I'd say snipers and fusions are fine, shotguns a bit to strong.
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Shotguns are balanced, the only reason they seem unbalanced is because 90% of the maps are tailor made for shotguns. Fusion rifles are far from balanced, I didn't even use a shotgun until they were nerfed into oblivion.
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But that's the problem, and that's why they need a nerf, the maps are to shotgun friendly. Blink also makes shotguns op, the Hunters weapons ready perk make shotguns op...shot package makes shotguns op, slow ttk on primaries makes shotguns op, shotgun need to fit into the game as it is. Fusions do there job just fine it's just shotguns do it better. No one uses fusions because shot guns are way way way better. Fusion rifles were broke at one point because there weakness was easily over come, you had to charge them, but with radar you can just pre charge.
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Nah fusions are fine now it's just shotguns
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Fusion rifles are far from fine. They're way off from being balanced.
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Go buy the final rest and roll accelerated coils with range finder they are honestly fine it's that they are over shadowed and out classed by shotguns. If shotguns weren't snipers and were situational trust me you would see people use fusions way more. It's the same argument as scout rifles vs hand cannons, you'd simply be outclassed with a scout rifle against thorn or tlw so why use a scout rifle?
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Except something being outclassed means it is imbalanced because the other thing is better. When a gun outclassed another gun on something it should not be doing it needs to be fixed. It makes sense if you have a scout rifle versing thorn or last word close range that is outclass because of gun type but being all the way across the map and getting hit by those guns for full damage in 2-three hits and scout rifles take 3-5 from long range is broken considering scouts are made for long range and hand cannons are short to only medium range.
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Exactly a hand cannon shouldn't even be able to compete with a scout rifle at range and the fact that a scout rifle can be bested by a hand cannon is absurd. It's the same concept with shotguns and fusion rifles. Fusion rifles are paced, mid ranged secondaries and shotguns are supposed to be cqc, sticky situation type secondaries. But because shotguns have taken the medium range roll and has no pace, it's ready instantly, it outclassed fusion rifles with no questions asked
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But yet sniping is also really easy, I get one shoted just for peeking around a corner where the camping sniper is hiding....
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Edited by boff: 9/1/2015 9:14:45 PMyeah the aim assist is quite strong but ive never been lock down by snipers always another route, the maps are quite open, only maps ive really been restricted to move around the map by snipers are on shores of time c side plus anomly looking over b, but there are a few routes on anomaly to get to them, not so much with shore, 4 routes in that can pretty much be locked down by 2 snipers. i just think there are not enough counters to shotguns, especially paired with blink.
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I always get sniped when I least expect it... but blink shotgunners really are hard to deal with, and tend to get on my nerves.
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they are some common sniper channels people use, you will notice them as you get more map knowledge, there are some good snipers though that can pretty much snipe anywhere but in the majority of cases they snipe from the usual places
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First light and shores of time have some very common spots, and the shadow of veils sniper apparently has a higher aim assistance than other snipers.
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yeah the aim assist on some is very strong but it still takes a bit of skill to be good, although hard scoping a doorway requires very little skill
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And a lot tend to sit and camp which is mostly useless
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It will only work on 1 map and that shores of time, camping on destiny isnt really a winning tactic, I rarely see campers on destiny and when I do it a guy with a shot gun sitting in a corner, very rare though. When I play a game I get sniped maybe once or twice if that but I'd say a high percentage of my deaths are from shotguns
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Blink and felwinters lie (or any other high range high damage shotgun w/ shot package) is a cheaply and very effective tactic, not to say that it can't be done w/o blink.
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Hopefully the patch will help with that, there is apparently a blink nerf coming also, see how that works.
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Yep it's broken
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I get down voted because I want a counter to shotgun blink, you can tell people rely to much on the crutch and fear the change and dont want a challenge to there gun skill by having to work for there kill, they want to keep easy mode blink shotgun.
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I stopped using shotguns.
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i use my primary most of the time and carry a sniper rifle. shotguns are annoying but they have there place but the are way to strong in destiny at the moment
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I mainly use primary's and really underrated guns in regular crucible and in trials I mainly snipe
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Very true
