OP doesn't have a titan. OP hasn't completed moments of triumph. OP has terrible Kd. OP'S opinion is invalid.

ive got some guy saying titans have less reaction time but well science and sensitivity options arnt class specific

Well of course you say that Titans bitch the most lol. You don't have one, and your not gonna hate on your own class. I primarily see that FoH is OP and that Hunters need buffs You know what helps? Facts! Credit to M aiq The Liar [quote][quote]Since most of you whiners have the attention span of a newborn chimpanzee, here's a [b]TLDR[/b]: [i]If you whine about Hunters' subclasses, or Titans being OP: it's a you-problem. Check the stats [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population]here[/url], then go work on your skills.[/i] [u]____________________________________[/u] Recently there have been more and more Hunters weeping over their subclasses being too weak. Which is, of course, complete rubbish. Like a Gunslinger with Golden Gun I am here to burst your bubbles of delusion, with facts derived from statistics. Now I know that some of you moaners will dispute the statistics' significance- and by all means do so... But if you have nothing but useless anecdotes to offer, sorry, but you have no case. Let's start by clearing out the demographics in the crucible, across all platforms: 34.2% plays as Hunter 33.6% plays as Warlock 32.2% plays as Titan As you can see, no class is over-represented, thus can we deduce that none of the following stats will be skewed to a point of being unreliable. Top 100 players (by class) 1st place: Hunters at 36.1% 2nd place: Titans at 32.6% 3rd place: Warlocks at 31.3% Congratulations Hunters! You are the undisputed Kings and Queens of the hill. Top 10,000 players (the average Joe, by class) 1st place: Hunters at 35.3% 2nd place: Warlocks at 32.7% 3rd place: Titans at 32% Congratulations Hunters! Yet again you're at the top. Let's break down the subclass demographics: [u]Hunters[/u] 51% Bladedancers 49% Gunslingers [u]Titans[/u] 47% Defenders 53% Strikers [u]Warlocks[/u] 62% Sunsingers 38% Voidwalkers Let's have a look at the AVERAGE KDR: [u]Hunters[/u] Bladedancers > 1 Gunslingers > 1 [u]Titans[/u] Defender < 1 Striker < 1 [u]Warlocks[/u] Voidwalker < 1 Sunsinger < 1 As most of you know, the current PvP meta game consists of an exotic handcannon and a shotgun: 1) Handcannons 1,466,551,647 kills 2) Shotguns 1,441,875,593 kills 3) Melee 1,082,244,380 kills A common complaint is how Titans Shoulder charge is sooooo OP, so let's see who's the worst perpetraitor. 1) Sunsingers 281,325,978 (26% of) melee kills 2) Strikers 193,989,846 (17.93% of) melee kills 3) Bladedancer 175,413,331 melee kills 4) Voidwalker 14.84% 5) Defender 13.65% 6) Gunslinger 11.37% So... Shoulder charge is the problem, but you don't mind being killed by warlocks almost twice as often? Hmm. Gunslingers though, thumbs up if you know how to throw your knife. Now onto the real problem. Arcblade needs a buff right? Or was Golden Gun the useless super? Fist of Havoc is too OP? 1) Bladedancer at 207,596,562 kills (21.73%) 2) Gunslinger at 179,520,390 kills (18.79%) 3) Striker at 178,059,836 kills (18.64%) 4) Sunsinger at 15.71% 5) Voidwalker at 12.60% 6) Defender 12.52% So, now that we've established that Hunters get the absolute highest amount of kills with their supers, I think it's safe to say that you need to stop weeping for nerfs. Seriously, stop. Anyways, the last myth to debunk: Hunter grenades suck, Magnetic grenade and Lightning grenade are OP: 1) Sunsinger at 173,643,166 grenade kills 2) Bladedancer at 129,281,096 grenade kills 3) Gunslinger at 104,629,378 grenade kills 4) Voidwalker at 98,384,135 grenade kills 5) Striker at 90,707,260 grenade kills 6) Defender at 67,964,843 grenade kills Yeeeeeeeeessss... Lightning grenades and Magnetic grenades are the problem... One word: bolt. To any Titan out there being annoyed by Hunters crying and moaning, refer to this thread. [b]Source of information[/b]: Destiny Tracker, downloaded at 12:15 PM on the 27th of August 2015, from http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population [b]Authors note[/b]: Statistics on Destiny Tracker are updated every 15 minutes, and thus people will find differing numbers while cross checking the source. Did I miss anything? Grammar or spelling mistake? Post a comment below! EDIT: [i]On a completely unrelated note. THANK YOU BUNGIE for the great video over at Game Informer. I absolutely loved the return of humour and honesty. You really nailed the description of the community being more like shareholders than hobby gamers. I strongly recommend anyone reading this to look up the Game Informer video (released on the 26th).[/i][/quote]

I dont get these polls. I just assume most people run one of each and therefore your only slagging off one of your own characters.

Nouveau Shamans for sure. [spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-Lowgxl4w I love Destiny, but this video still cracks me up. [/spoiler]

Troll is the most self absorbed class

As a hunter myself I voted for other hunters...

Ouch. Thanks for pouring that salt into one of my many still open wounds from my last second revives. I guess even when you try to go against the grain of your class and be as supportive as possible, someone will be waiting to bring you right back were you where. I am going to have fun when the Nightstalker is unleashed, then you can no longer run or hide from reality.

Bitch please, I never see titans bitching, but hunters, don't get me started, I'd give you a list but we would be here for the ten years of Destiny writing, then another ten whilst you read it.

What? Warlocks always feel the need to be the center of attention. "I create the most orbs, I do this I can self rez"

I'm not self-obsessed. I'm obsessed with you! Don't look in your closet.

[quote]Are Titans Stupid?[/quote] Made by a Warlock(Probably)^ [quote]Why are hunters better than warlocks? [/quote] Made By a Hunter^ [quote]Titans and warlocks need a nerf in PvP.[/quote] Made by a Hunter^ Just some of the posts I've seen near the top of the #Classes forums.

Every Hunter that I know has a tendency to constantly complain about Warlocks. Warlock being my main, well I educate the filthy peasants that they are and then they complain again because they feel insulted.

I have made a Hunter and a warlock because I absolutely hate Titans no let me rephrase that I hate fist of havoc reason why you can't stop it no matter what it's too overpowered it made all the classes unbalanced but that is the only reason I dislike Titans I started with Hunter and almost gave up on it but with the new subclasses I'm happy we finally have something that will put an end to all the supers that come with every guardian not just warlocks and Titans but hunters too

Oh look, another poll where hunters win... [spoiler]Never seen that before[/spoiler]

1. warlocks 2. hunters 3. titans