I understand people are manipulating their MTU values also; My experience in PvP is negative, mostly to such an extent I have stopped playing it, but now I have to to get my Crucible marks to 200 ready for the DLC and I'm not looking forward to it. I would like to read that Bungie acknowledge the lag problems and are working to solve the problem instead of posting a standard notice blaming players connection, yes I know some people are not set up correctly or have a poor connections, I was in that position when I first started playing and always red barred, but now have changed ISP with a 30+Mbps fibre cable connection, port forwarded, cat 5 cabled to latest BT router, have a gaming monitor with 2ms refresh and set that up optimally but the lag persists even though I hardly ever get a red bar now. On top of that we have to deal with the cheaters!!! It a real poor show from Bungie especially when us Brits have to pay more for the new DLC than our American cousins!!!