When using the Thorn in PvP do you do better, worse, or the same as far as your overall performance is concerned whilst using another firearm.
I tend to do a little worse when it comes to kills and K/D ratio when I use it as opposed to using my UR, Mida, or TLW and about the same when I use a random legendary in its stead.
What about you?
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Thorn is not overused.. Maybe 1 person per team using it
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I don't use it unless the entier enemy team hasit
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Folcrum works for me
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Dont forget about TLW the primary that kills faster than heavy MG in a 1v1 vs the MG
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i can see how people call thorn op but i always preffered red death or even the timepiece..
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Strangers rifle has been my counter to thorn and I'm running a 2+ k/d
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I'm so used to hawkmoon I don't really bother with thorn that much anymore
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I have found the answer to thorn
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I'm just good at crucible, I use thorn in trials and IB because that's all others use. I agree though that it's not OP people just suck. I've heard of lot of crap sayin that The Messenger is OP because like thorn it's a 2 shot kill, and they get killed by it. Stop asking for nerfs and gtfo of crucible if you don't enjoy it. I love it. I just wish they would re-buff autorifles. No nerfs, just want the AR's back.
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Edited by I GET BANNED: 7/4/2015 8:49:28 PMYou should write the stories for shooting hoaxes in the media, because you're a great propaganda agent. Thorn is OP, end of story. It's fire rate is as fast as TLW, has the range of and Ice Breaker, and it kills in 1-2 shots and it kills with poison if you're lucky enough to run around the corner.
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Can't use Thorn to save my life, but can outgun it with an auto rifle. Logic.
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It doubles my kd lol
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I use a scout rifle. If opposing team has lots of thorns then I bust mine out to give them a taste. Then switch back. Honestly don't care too much with people using it. And this IB I've seen it's use drop off significantly. Maybe 1/10 use it.
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I played about 5 matches of IB last night with thorn and was getting wrecked. Switched over to Red Death (which id never used in PVP and which isn't even have the healing perk unlocked for my first few matches) First game with red death I went 27 kills with a 2.7 KD. I was blown away by how much better I did. Now granted, I am a mediocre PVPer at best, and have only been playing destiny for a month or so. But I am officially a fan of red death now, and I'm maxing it out as quickly as I can. My thorn was 365, btw.
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I've been getting wrecked harder by red death more than thorn this week.
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I tried thorn for a match yesterday and did worse. It's something you have to get used to I guess.
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Way better with TLW than thorn.
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Edited by zortcommander: 7/2/2015 4:19:37 PMI do better with VoC, truly. Which, I am bad at PvP, so it isn't saying much
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Tlw hawk or red death
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Worse. While it had unreal range and DoT is OP, it has a slow rate of fire and If someone is good with Red Death, MIDA, and especially TLW, then I get killed more. The Last Word works better for me.
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I consistently outshoot Thorn with Hawkmoon. The problem I feel is that when many people get hit by Thorn and the dmg starts ticking, people run or try to hide and get killed in the process. When I get hit by Thorn I finish my headshots with Hawkmoon and 9/10, I win. You have to play aggressively against it, not defensively. People rely on that "OMG I'm thorned, gotta hide!!" reaction to get kills and it works, that's why it's called OP and game breaking etc. This applies to almost all Thorn users in my opinion. The reason I say this is the only gun that can compete with ttk midrange (in my opinion) is Hawkmoon, and both require two headshots for the kill. So it ends up being who's the better player in the end, and the poison plays little to no part in the outcome. All that being said, I played a team with all Thorns. I died no more often than any other regular game. Tl;dr Thorn is only considered OP because people are afraid of the dmg and play defensively against it, which is what gets you killed.
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I don't use it. I can do just fine without it. For normal crucible even a blue weapon can outgun a thorn, so git good ppl. Lets see more weapon variety.
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Red Death Xurr saved us and simultaneously screwed us over.
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Used thorn for a while eventually realized it's so cheap with the DoT. Switched to hawkmoon about a week or two ago loving it
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I tend to do better with red death or Badger CCL. But I suck, so doing bad or slightly less bad isn't something to write home about.
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I do worse with Thorn, only use it for postmortem and/or assist bounties.