The conversation on the grimoire thorn 3 refers to the last conversation between dredgen jor and his ghost. Says so right there: TYPE: Transcript. DESCRIPTION: Conversation. PARTIES: Two [2]. One [1] [b][i]Ghost-type[/i][/b], designate [REDACTED] [u.1], One [1] [b][i]Guardian-type[/i][/b], Class [REDACTED] [u.2] Dredgen's ghost is trying to "save him" from himself (the person he's become). [u.1:4.2] You must try… [u.2:4.3] I tire of you. [u.1:4.3] [REDACTED]… [u.2:4.4] That is no longer my name. [u.1:4.4] I will not speak the other. [u.2:4.5] It doesn’t matter. This is where we part ways. [u.1:4.5] I will not leave you. [u.2:4.6] I am leaving you. Dredgen isn't having any of it, stating he cannot be saved from himself as that is the path he chose to take. So he banishes his ghost, even threating to [i]kill it[/i] if it doesnt leave. [u.1:4.7] [b][i]Without me… You will die.[/i][/b] [u.2:4.8] Someday. Won’t be the first time. [silence] [u.2:4.9] Consider this my last good deed. I am releasing you of the burden of my deeds, both done and yet to come. [u.1:4.8] I will not abandon you. [u.2:5.0] You will. [b][i]Or I will carve the Light from your shell and leave the carcass of my first and last friend in the dirt of this dull, red world for no one to find.[/i][/b] [u.1:4.9] Then I’ve failed you, completely. [u.2:5.1] Not me. Maybe the man I was. [u.1:5.0] He is truly dead. [u.2:5.2] I believe so. [u.1:5.1] Belief is not fact. [u.2:5.3] Semantics I no longer have the patience for. His ghost states how without him, Dredgen will die the true death, without his ghost to revive him. Even so Dredgen still banishes him and threatens to carve out the ghost's light if it doesn't leave. The darkness is all he needs..