[quote]Hawkmoon - makes PvP unplayable I mean come on the gun is seriously op Vex mythocast - has silent shot some time you can't hear or see it shoot Last word has a glitch that allows a player to two hit kill you from 10 feet away Thorn is fine bullshit I use but it seems mine does less damage then other player like wtf their the use weapon These weapon are go to weapons for trials and it makes the game mode unplayable the fact that I can head shot some one 2 clips with red death but thorn last word or hawkmoon kills me with 2 bullets I'm like really its fliping bs[/quote] Lol!!! I use mida multi tool and plug and do just fine lol!