[quote]Rewriting an older post from memory, it was lost in the waves of fanboys attempting to defend Guardians. We can all agree that with only a primary weapon, a SPARTAN II can wreck a guardian. Therefore, the best way to prove that SPARTANs are better than guardians is to prove that any other form of guardian attack (Supers, Heavies, Grenades, Special weapons, and Melees) are useless against a SPARTAN. SPARTANs are lightning fast, and Kelly-087, the fastest, has been clocked running at just under 40 MPH (just under 60 ft per second), without the enhancement of MJOLNIR armor. This, along with their reaction time (15 milliseconds) is critical to the defeat of guardians, especially in Supers, Heavies, and Grenades. Supers- "panic buttons" Nova Bomb and FoH- these supers are practically identical. Both consist of a rapidly traveling projectile erupting into a explosion with a radius of (generously) 20 feet, killing everything inside. Suppose it is 1/2 second (again, generous) between activation and impact. The SPARTAN will notice activation within 30 milliseconds (0.03 seconds) and (for easy math, actual number is 3/4ths of that time) take another 20 milliseconds to react. That gives said Spartan .45 seconds to react. The Spartan will cover about 27 feet before the super hits the ground, plenty to avoid the explosion. Radiance- All the super does is make you more resistant to damage or self revive. If a Spartan kills you once, he can do it again. Golden Gun- Spartans (the weaker SPARTAN IIIs, in fact) have been known to dodge plasma rifle bullets from point blank range. I think a Spartan II can do that from 20 feet out. Arc Blade- In the same instance as mentioned in the Golden Gun, the same Spartan dodged an energy sword swipe and killed the unfortunate wielder with his bare hands. I think any Spartan can dodge an Arc Blade Hunter until the super runs out. WoD- Has no offensive capability, Spartan can just wait outside until the bubble pops. (To avoid the individual issues of Shotgun campers [later issue] and Saint-14 (VISR will fix that)) Heavies- Rockets- Using Gjallahorn and Truth as examples- if these are disproven, all rockets will be. Given that it is a rocket, not a super, we will assume that the Rocket flies from the launcher to the target in 1/4 of a second (250 MS). Assume it takes 50 MS for the SPARTAN to react. The Spartan has time to cover 12 feet before impact of the round. Assume the Truth covers 6 of those feet by tracking. The Truth doesn't have a 6 foot blast radius. Gjallahorn has a weaker tracker, so assume it covers 3 of those feet. The Gjallahorn (and the tracking clusters) will not be able to hit the Spartan, as, by the time the Trackers detonate, the Spartan will already be 20-30 feet away. LMGs- canonically, SPARTAN have been known to walk off major injuries- when falling from 1 mile up from a pelican, one Spartan suffered a torn Achilles' tendon, 3 broken fingers, a (slightly) punctured lung, kidney failures in one kidney, and a herniated disk. These injuries were deemed mild, and the Spartan was sent on a supply run shortly afterwards. My point- if that doesn't stop them, a machine gun certainly won't. Grenades- Not much to say here- what are grenades but miniature, weaker nova bombs? Special weapons- Snipers- with the reaction time of a Spartan, very few snipers can even get a shot off on them. Those that can give away their position. Spartans are deadly marksmen. They have been known to be able to take enemies out at ranges deemed further than any would ever think possible, with accuracy that no one would believe- Linda-058 made a habit of taking out banshees by sniping the pilot in the tiny slit where the hood and body of the craft meet. In one instance, this was done hanging one-handed, upside down, off of a Covenant space station. While Linda is an extreme, any Spartan is a force to be reckoned with, and, even without a sniping weapon of their own, can still use their speed and agility to dodge even he most skilled snipers the guardians have. Once they close the gap, there is no fight, again. Shotguns- the most problematic weapon for a Spartan (because 90% of users sit in a corner with it). However, Spartans can still beat them through dodging around the corner, and forcing the shotgunner to aim to take them out. As the Spartan can move faster than the wielder can, the corner camper would waste all of their rounds, and the Spartan can go in for the kill. Fusion rifles- while powerful, the charge time of a fusion rifle is the fatal flaw in the weapon. With the speed of a Spartan, at most one or 2 shots in each burst would make contact. These shots would do nothing to a Spartan. And once again, the Spartan would be able to close the distance and snap their neck before a second burst could be charged. Melees- as mentioned before, Spartan IIIs have been known to dodge strikes from extremely powerful alien enemies (maybe Elite vs. guardian would be better). A knife, even if it made contract, would do nothing without the sheer power of a Spartan to drive it into the titanium armor (the only canonical reason for the assassinations in Reach and 4). A Titan hits hard, I'm not denying that. A Spartan hits way harder. Warlocks can shoot a blast of air at their foes (what is that supposed to do anyways?). Spartans wouldn't be fazed, and could just hit the "glass cannon" and shatter it. The Ghost (thanks to TheHunter for bringing this up)- they can just revive the guardian. However, the ghost is just a very crushable piece of metal. Once the Spartan crushes the ghost, it cannot revive the guardian anymore. Did I forget anything? Leave a comment below if I forgot any ways that a guardian could beat a Spartan, and I will add them to the post (and disprove them). EDIT: PLEASE try to use logic and reasoning in your argument. I will not waste time arguing with thick headed fanboys. Also, please do not make up things. I know both lores well and will ask for a source if I think a comment is BS.[/quote] Posting the facts [spoiler] thanks who ever rekt everyone with the facts[/spoiler]