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3/4/2015 8:20:21 PM
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Haha. I love it.
You guys act like the pendulum should only swing one way.
Hey, ignore:
Pulse Rifles are viable now
Shotguns are good now
Bad Juju was buffed
Thorn was buffed
Hey, scream about:
Vex was nerfed
Assault Rifles nerfed
Balance is balance. You need it in PvE and PvP. Don't let the fact that balance issues are easier to spot in PvP confuse you into thinking nerfs happen BECAUSE of PvP.
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PvP is exactly why nerfs have happened. You guys cry and now Bungie wants everyone to play the game their way. Their forcing me to use guns I don't like. I haven't really been using any cause I ain't been playing.
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It's PvE. It doesn't matter what gun you use. It's not like it's hard, the AI isn't predictable, you don't already know where to stand for every raid and strike. Who cares if ARs got a nerf? The big purple eye is too hard now? And I would say the amount of crying is pretty even on both sides of the issue.
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I care thats who cares if you don't more power to you but I like everyone else should be able to decide how we want to play. I don't like being forced to play a certain way. The weekly and Nightfall strikes are much harder than launch and my weapon of choice has been pretty much turned into junk.
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We did the last nightfall in 11min.
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Was it Sepkis Prime?
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What do you mean shotguns are good NOW? Shotguns and fusion rifles are used more than primaries. It's stupid. Pvp is broken af and I rarely go into it. Imo it was fun in the beta because there were no OP weapons (exotics which I have so dont say im butthurt) to break pvp. There is just no reason to play it. There are also only 4-5 gamemodes which are all just different versions of team deathmatch. Even control is score multiplied version of TDM. They need to add gamemodes like CTF, hardpoint/king of the hill, and much more.
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I was referring to PvE. Shotguns are good now in PvE.
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What balance? The one that all battleground belongs to enemy? Destiny has become a "find a hole, shoot from the hole" kind of game. Its dull, tedious and a 30min boring experience.
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Except that it's not balanced. ARs are complete trash now, including all exotic ARs. Bungie went about this "weapon balance" in a bassackwards way. Instead of just improving pulse rifles and shotguns they caved, once again, to the crucibaby temper tantrums and nerfed ARs into oblivion as well. Bungie's love affair with PvP will be Destiny's undoing, because Crucible is a pile of crap compared to other FPS PvP titles. Crucible cannot prop up Destiny on it's own.
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I agree. ARs were weak in PVE as it was before the update.
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Shut the f up. That is the only reason for the nerfs.
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Edited by Always Feral: 3/5/2015 1:32:12 PMIn all fairness, the Auto Rifle nerfs have been [i]excessive[/i]. Multiple nerfs to range. Nerf to long-distance stability. A nerf to the Critical Hit damage. An [i]additional[/i] nerf to range. Another nerf to base damage. This is the first FPS I've played that just straight up doesn't want me to use assault rifles...a core staple weapon of the genre.
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I agree WTF, put the autos back for pve.
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take a look at dust 514. see what their forums are all about. then. go play their game.. that game is under bad management. that mess right there. is what happens to games with lots of potential whenever crying idiots are involved with it. now there are idiots on both sides. but. when it comes to this. its mostly idiots looking to buff themselves so they can be godly. that is the problem with all of it. and no1 actually seeks balance. that is always a lie. and outright lie. i care not for crucible. but i do care about the potential this game has. i have no interest in seeing it ruined because of selfish desires.every1 elses facts and so called proof has always only been opinion. from my experience. it feels as if it would be better to remove pvp all together. and replace with a survival type game mode.
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Imo if they ban exotics and add more gamemodes crucible will be saved. The only reason people wants buffs and nerfs are so they can use their newly recreated OP exotics. People will not care if they buff or nerf legendaries.
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They shouldn't ban or nerf guns they should have brought other guns up to speed. They need bigger maps. I'm not as good as some 20 or 30 yr old but you know I do pretty good cause I improvise, adapt, and overcome obstacles not cry about getting killed 1000 times by certain guns.
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It's teenagers who are good because of their reflexes. Im assuming your like 11 lol im 16 kid not 20 or 30.
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You cant ignore the fact that there has to be balance in both game types. If the Vex was the Vex of launch, what would be the point of using another primary exotic besides damage type? They want diversity. Everyone having their signature weapon. I enjoy to see when people dont have the typical "Fatebringer Black Hammer Gjallarhorn" loadout for every raid. Just like supers, I think every exotic should more or less have an advantage over each other. Worry about those first, then work your way down. And no dont remove pvp, people, including me, actually enjoy it. But yeah, add survival. This game just needs options.
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True there should be buffs to make more then just a few exotics and legendary a first choice for your load out.
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I agree. Remove pvp
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stop it
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You idiots need to learn to read. The point is that balance in PvP and PvE are different threat environments with different balancing needs. Bungie's big bet on a unified inventory worked out exactly how it does in every game that tries to balance PvE and PvP simultaneously with one system instead of separately. You end up with a giant mess with one, the other, or both being massively unbalanced.
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If they want some balance in PvP they should fix the lag problem first.
