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Edited by Nephilim713: 2/28/2015 6:55:46 PM
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Update is cool and all but I think another rebalance needs to happen. (PVP)

Before I express MY THOUGHTS, I want to go over a few huge issues that still live in this game's PVP atmosphere. People, these are my opinions and mine alone, so if you do not like them, can you express why? I do not want to see "lol gitgud, kid" or "lol you suck" or "lol look at your KD" posts. These posts are what is killing this very community. First, I am not a kid, so do not call me out on that. Second, these things are DIRE situations that need to be changed, and if you do not agree, you are either defending them, or living under a rock. This will without a doubt attract a lot of hate because I know how many people use these weapons. 1) The Last Word (Yours not mine). Let me tell you why this gun is such a plague in crucible and after patch 1.1.1 still is. Bungie, what the -blam!- were you thinking when you made this gun? If I remember your exact words, you people said EXOTICS ARE NOT MEANT TO BREAK GAMEPLAY, but feel overpowered. Well, shit, Bungie, you clearly make some exotics feel damn good, but the last word is a completely different story. This gun is the most broken gun in the whole game. The hip fire on this gun does not even require you to aim and it hits so damn hard. This is a problem in a game you deem "skillful", Bungie. It is a problem because ANYONE can use this weapon and dominate a whole match no matter how shit they are at the game. If you use the last word, you are a total noob and a plague to this entire community. Let me say this again, YOU ARE A PLAGUE. Bungie, the last word is insane and you people know it. Get off your arses and actually rebalance this damn gun. The issue with this gun is the perk called "last word". This special benefit alone lets this gun do insane damage and have insane hipfire. This benefit needs to be removed, and the full auto fan fire benefit should replace it. It will feel less broken and match other exotics out there. Anyone who used last word knows how boring it makes the game, Bungie, a exotic rebalancing 2.0 is needed! Couple this with gunslinger's trance, or blink and you are the ultimate noob this game has ever seen. I do admit that I take out my last word when there is a plague of them. 2) Thorn. Ah, thorn, the gun that is super hard to get, feels so rewarding, and burns you as well. If someone has Thorn, only last word can beat it, depending on how good the person is with it. I will not say much about thorn, but it shouldnt be able to hit you from a mile away. You people didn't nerf the range enough, Bungie. In my experience, the only way to beat it is with a fusion rifle, or a shotgun, or if you get the first shot in with your primary. Hunter's with thorn and last word are unstoppable if they can press a trigger. Thorn does not have an aimbot, but it is plaguing the crucible and is limiting our weapon options. 3) BLINK. GET RID OF THIS IN PVP. This ability is super super broken. How fun is it to shoot and then a person randomly teleports in the air and shotguns you in the face. No, there is no skill when using blink, so stop being in denial. Blink and felwinter's lie or any shotgun, really, are another plague in the crucible. Blink is stupid and there should not be crazy shenanigans in an arena shooter like teleporting. Get rid of blink, or put a timer on its use. Inb4 blink takes skill or blink is not broken. Oh and Bungie, who's lovely idea was it to make hunter's be able to blink in blade dancer form? This is super-duper broken. Blink and nova bomb is also a very cheap combo. 4) BLADEDANCER. The most overpowered thing in the game and even last word has a hard time beating it! This is just insane. Hunters get a 50% defense increase and can run around the map INVISIBLE and even throw arc waves from a distance. Easy fix: Make all supers like blade dancer so we have some sort of balance. If a nova bomb whiffs, that is it, you dont get a SECOND CHANCE. Radiant Skin does not even have the sheer defense power of a bladedancer, and what is even more stupid is dying from a single headshot, which bladedancer's live. Two Gjallarhorn's to the face doens't even kill a blade dancer. One hit of a bladedancer super puts a warlock in radiant skin at red health. Overpowered crap needs to be nerfed. My solution: Nerf the defense of a bladedancer or make him have a certain amount of strikes before he can use slash again. This would create balance and an opening to kill a bladedancer. 5) Golden gun: Self-explanatory: One shot kills and you get FOUR with the helmet and it lasts such a long time. Radiance only gets a one shot melee and nothing else is one shot unless you stick someone with a fusion. Claws of Ahamkara or Hotpf is the only way to guarantee one shot kills in radiance. Reduce Golden gun to about 6-7 seconds and it will not be such a problem in crucible. 6) Special ammo: Not everyone wants team shotguns and team snipers in a clash match. Put the special ammo crates to spawn every minute or so and there would be more of a weapon control thing going on. Skyshock is the worst offender in this category. Special ammo should NOT give you primary ammo. It should only give you special. Primary should be for kills and kills alone. Someone has 70 bullets and has last word? You know he can get more, right? 7) Fist of panic and panic nova bomb: Give us a notification when they have it. I cannot count the number of times I shot at a titan and he fist of havocs me. 8) Invisibility: This should be exclusive to patience and time. Get rid of it. I cannot count the number of times a hunter camps in a corner invisible and just shotguns me. 9) Fusion rifles: The ammo has been reduced and so has the blast radius, but they are still damn overpowered. I am looking at pocket infinity. 10) IRON BANNER: Make this more than control and bring something like it as a permanent playlist. I think the no radar playlist will help some of these problems, but a weapon and general rebalance needs to happen again. Weapon as in SPECIFIC EXOTICS. PS: These are MY opinions and I am not telling Bungie to nerf everything, just the things that are a disease.

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  • why do you even play? nerf the whole game? whats left? go away

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  • You're basically asking for a balanced PVP experience and you just won't find that in Destiny. I don't think they intended it to be balanced. It's like they decided to make a game the exact opposite of Halo. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it certainly isn't for me.

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    • Umm I use thorn almost exclusively in pvp and I get killed all the time. My stats would like to have a word with your opinions. I use it because I like how it handles and looks. I promise it didn't make me instantly mlg by picking it up. Im lucky to go positive. As for the last word, you obviously have not used it. Same for everything you brought up. I'm a hunter and nothing you posted has helped me get tons of kills. It comes down to individual players skills. Obviously the people killing you are better than you are. The problem is the game needs a skill based matchmaking system. Nothing is stopping you right now from being matched with top 1% players and them wrecking your face until you ragequit.

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      • Edited by Clone: 2/28/2015 2:25:26 PM
        Bladedancer does not get an armor increase. Pre 1.1.1, a shotgun could sill 1 shot you EDIT:http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Arc_Blade Never says anything about an armor increase.

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        • Get good scrub

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        • you say you are not a kid, but im sorry my friend - grow older, your brain is still not developed enough. its not only about the gun. its the player, the map, the gun, the situation, the connection,.............blabla and so on you justgot killed a few times to often in your last session, breath in breath out and move on. next time, new chances. hav fun

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        • Shoulder charge and fist of havoc is how I would reply. If Hunters are OP then those two are as well. Personally I would just ban all supers from PvP.

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        • Op is a complete fgt he is just whining that he isn't good someone honestly should slap you across the face

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        • I have to say you sound like a whiney bitch.

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        • Lol, so butthurt.

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        • You seem to hate everything. Wow.

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        • Lol, have u seen how crap TLW is in PvE? PvP is it's saving grace

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          • Only last word? Lol meet hawkmoon

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            • I only agree with the handcannon nerfs and a proper delay on blink All these exotic handcannons have way to much impact, don't even get into gunfights with them because they are spam to win Yeah, I know the ranges got nerfed but that's not why these guns are a joke, it's the impact on them. Everyone knows high impact = win in the crucible, and considering the impact is supposed to balance out with the rate of fire, it doesn't matter when they can out 3 bullets on you quick and easily enough anyway. I mean cmon, look at those impact bars, especially hawkmoon, Jesus. Nearly a full impact bar, what were they thinking? Thorn with high impact and DOT? What the hell, why? It's one or the other, and I know people say "yeah but Thorn requires a skilled hand".....bullshit, don't kid yourself. If you use the Thorn you suck. In fact if you use any of those overpowered hand Handcannons we know you suck, please don't try to defend yourself, I will laugh at you Bungie might have nerfed the range and damage drop off but considering all the maps are CQC it hasn't changed anything much in Handcannons TTK As much as I can't stand the Handcannons, Blink is a whole new level of noob. Losing a gun battle? Spam blink. Need to get closer instantly to shotgun someone, spam blink. Want to take advantage over the crappy motion sensor where your unable to guess accurately where people are? Use blink. I can't say I agree with the rest though. Sure, Golden gun is over powered and same for blade dancer, but I want changes to things that can be realistically changed, those two things would require a complete overhaul

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              • Edited by Wanted: 2/28/2015 10:38:36 AM
                aka NERF EVERYTHING. Maybe try asking bungie to nerf your life, I'm sure that's too difficult to deal with as well. Ps STAY BUTTHURT

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                • Why don't you just make you own game called "I win". What happens on it is you win all the time, you can even print certificates off and show them to your mum about how well you have done.

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                  • 1:kinda I guess 2:^ 3:it has a cool down if someone blinks to much and is still in you LOS you can just gun them down 4:get gud. Or run. Either way works The rest are all stupid literally the only way for to fix this is to get better (this is serious)

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                  • 1) The last word is horrible outside of PvP so it's fair...it's range is ridiculously small and it requires 3/4 shots... 2) thorn- they nerfed it, you have to earn it...maybe the reason it's still overpowered is because it's a powerful weapon...but also because the person using it is good? Also both thorn and TLW are meant to be good in crucible...Bungie even pointed that out with the back story for both.. 3) Blink? ⅔ of the classes have it? Titans have shoulder charge which is completely unique. You point? Next 4) each super is OP. Instead of going for kills some are clearly better at "Super" denial. Fist of havoc will beat 5/6 supers at most ranges...every single time. So why don't people hunt other supers? Sure you won't get kills but you'll save deaths which is just as important. 5) I really don't see the issue here? A 4 potential kill super with no damage resistance that requires aim and giving up the exotic armour slot? 6) They reduced it already...if you keep getting killed but specials then maybe it's your fault for trying to engage them when they have the advantage? I.e stop hugging shotguns and get closer to snipers? 7) so they waste their super on just you? Not bad tbh. Maybe they meant to kill you? 8) clearly you have sight issues because most people can still invis hunters. Plus it's a build perk so...no...invis can stay? 9) actually they are pretty balanced now. I don't use them but I can clearly tell they are less effective...so you're just wrong in this case 10) how about....no? Iron banner is a SPECIAL event...just like how you want special ammo to remain special maybe the once a month event should stay as it is. The crucible isn't PvE...level advantages just aren't fair. But you wouldn't understand this as you're too busy whining. I respect your opinion...and I just don't care tbh. None of what you suggested was particularly insightful or fair. It was just how you wanted the game to be to suit yourself so you could get better...

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                  • I'm going to give you some words of wisdom. Don't -blam!-ing play crucible. You literally bitched about every aspect of the game. Only thing you didn't mention was vex. Literally you complained about every thing. If you want shooter action like this go play call of duty if you can't handle the special perks of this game. They are the same concept just different weapons and abilities.

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                  • Not being a jerk, but if that number of things annoy you about pvp why play it at all? You didn't list 1 or 2 things, but basically half the supers and numerous weapons. I'm not saying pvp is balanced, I don't think it is. But that amount of changes to core weapons and gameplay isn't going to happen. Either learn to deal with them or stay away from crucible, it's that simple.

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                  • Stop playing PvP then, little bitch whiners like you are ruining the rest of the game... PvE is getting bummed by bungie because the MINORITY keep bitching... This is a PvE based game, I really don't even know what PvP is doing in this game... (Also blade dancer is not op, try running at about 3 guys and see how fast it kills you, and both other classes have panic buttons that 1) make it so blade dancers can't kill them in 1 hit and 2) can kill a blade dancer in 1 hit... This game is balanced as it is now, incredibly I'd say. No more nerfs are needed, at least not for now

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                  • Man they are guna rip you a new one sigh Seems like you need to get better at this game in general. TLW is strong but you have to learn to deal with it sry dude. Thorn is a great gun in pvp dont complain. Blink totally takes some getting used to to be decent at it so hush. Special ammo crates have to drop primary ammo so we can keep our kill streaks alive duh. I used to complain about this game too. Realize Destiny is different than what you want. Either get with it or play another game.

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                  • Edited by Ohh Haro Der: 2/28/2015 12:30:28 PM
                    Agree that tlw and thorn are OP and do need a change but the rest of your post is crying about stuff you can't do because you limit yourself to using sunsinger... Also when I play on my voidwalker I don't blink shotgun, I just use blink (and it does have a cool down moron, after 2 consecutive blinks you can't blink for ~5 secs, and this has killed me many times), while Hunter supers are strong in PvP they are slightly weak in PvE. I think that getting guardian kills with blade dancer should decrease the timer mainly because golden gun has a limit, sunsinger is easy to get away from, fist of havoc and nova bomb require people to group up and it is a complete waiting game during which you can't charge your super... Blade dancer? Well, activate it in the vicinity of 3-4 even rather sparsely placed players and the likelyhood is a triple/Quadra kill, and killing the dancer is pretty damn hard, only snipers like icebreaker can 1 hit them and even then you need a headshot on such an erratic target, if they're in shotgun range you're probably dead anyway... But as I said, the rest is you just bitching

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                    • Edited by Qs_Krull: 2/28/2015 12:34:10 PM
                      Stupidass hawkmoon and thorn with second perk is ridiculous/ pain in the ass

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                    • I've come to the conclusion many people like The Crucible because it is unbalanced. They like being able to figure out combos and get really high KDs. If you want a more balanced game go buy Advanced warfare

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                      • bring back ap round penetration

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