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Edited by Nephilim713: 2/28/2015 6:55:46 PM
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Update is cool and all but I think another rebalance needs to happen. (PVP)

Before I express MY THOUGHTS, I want to go over a few huge issues that still live in this game's PVP atmosphere. People, these are my opinions and mine alone, so if you do not like them, can you express why? I do not want to see "lol gitgud, kid" or "lol you suck" or "lol look at your KD" posts. These posts are what is killing this very community. First, I am not a kid, so do not call me out on that. Second, these things are DIRE situations that need to be changed, and if you do not agree, you are either defending them, or living under a rock. This will without a doubt attract a lot of hate because I know how many people use these weapons. 1) The Last Word (Yours not mine). Let me tell you why this gun is such a plague in crucible and after patch 1.1.1 still is. Bungie, what the -blam!- were you thinking when you made this gun? If I remember your exact words, you people said EXOTICS ARE NOT MEANT TO BREAK GAMEPLAY, but feel overpowered. Well, shit, Bungie, you clearly make some exotics feel damn good, but the last word is a completely different story. This gun is the most broken gun in the whole game. The hip fire on this gun does not even require you to aim and it hits so damn hard. This is a problem in a game you deem "skillful", Bungie. It is a problem because ANYONE can use this weapon and dominate a whole match no matter how shit they are at the game. If you use the last word, you are a total noob and a plague to this entire community. Let me say this again, YOU ARE A PLAGUE. Bungie, the last word is insane and you people know it. Get off your arses and actually rebalance this damn gun. The issue with this gun is the perk called "last word". This special benefit alone lets this gun do insane damage and have insane hipfire. This benefit needs to be removed, and the full auto fan fire benefit should replace it. It will feel less broken and match other exotics out there. Anyone who used last word knows how boring it makes the game, Bungie, a exotic rebalancing 2.0 is needed! Couple this with gunslinger's trance, or blink and you are the ultimate noob this game has ever seen. I do admit that I take out my last word when there is a plague of them. 2) Thorn. Ah, thorn, the gun that is super hard to get, feels so rewarding, and burns you as well. If someone has Thorn, only last word can beat it, depending on how good the person is with it. I will not say much about thorn, but it shouldnt be able to hit you from a mile away. You people didn't nerf the range enough, Bungie. In my experience, the only way to beat it is with a fusion rifle, or a shotgun, or if you get the first shot in with your primary. Hunter's with thorn and last word are unstoppable if they can press a trigger. Thorn does not have an aimbot, but it is plaguing the crucible and is limiting our weapon options. 3) BLINK. GET RID OF THIS IN PVP. This ability is super super broken. How fun is it to shoot and then a person randomly teleports in the air and shotguns you in the face. No, there is no skill when using blink, so stop being in denial. Blink and felwinter's lie or any shotgun, really, are another plague in the crucible. Blink is stupid and there should not be crazy shenanigans in an arena shooter like teleporting. Get rid of blink, or put a timer on its use. Inb4 blink takes skill or blink is not broken. Oh and Bungie, who's lovely idea was it to make hunter's be able to blink in blade dancer form? This is super-duper broken. Blink and nova bomb is also a very cheap combo. 4) BLADEDANCER. The most overpowered thing in the game and even last word has a hard time beating it! This is just insane. Hunters get a 50% defense increase and can run around the map INVISIBLE and even throw arc waves from a distance. Easy fix: Make all supers like blade dancer so we have some sort of balance. If a nova bomb whiffs, that is it, you dont get a SECOND CHANCE. Radiant Skin does not even have the sheer defense power of a bladedancer, and what is even more stupid is dying from a single headshot, which bladedancer's live. Two Gjallarhorn's to the face doens't even kill a blade dancer. One hit of a bladedancer super puts a warlock in radiant skin at red health. Overpowered crap needs to be nerfed. My solution: Nerf the defense of a bladedancer or make him have a certain amount of strikes before he can use slash again. This would create balance and an opening to kill a bladedancer. 5) Golden gun: Self-explanatory: One shot kills and you get FOUR with the helmet and it lasts such a long time. Radiance only gets a one shot melee and nothing else is one shot unless you stick someone with a fusion. Claws of Ahamkara or Hotpf is the only way to guarantee one shot kills in radiance. Reduce Golden gun to about 6-7 seconds and it will not be such a problem in crucible. 6) Special ammo: Not everyone wants team shotguns and team snipers in a clash match. Put the special ammo crates to spawn every minute or so and there would be more of a weapon control thing going on. Skyshock is the worst offender in this category. Special ammo should NOT give you primary ammo. It should only give you special. Primary should be for kills and kills alone. Someone has 70 bullets and has last word? You know he can get more, right? 7) Fist of panic and panic nova bomb: Give us a notification when they have it. I cannot count the number of times I shot at a titan and he fist of havocs me. 8) Invisibility: This should be exclusive to patience and time. Get rid of it. I cannot count the number of times a hunter camps in a corner invisible and just shotguns me. 9) Fusion rifles: The ammo has been reduced and so has the blast radius, but they are still damn overpowered. I am looking at pocket infinity. 10) IRON BANNER: Make this more than control and bring something like it as a permanent playlist. I think the no radar playlist will help some of these problems, but a weapon and general rebalance needs to happen again. Weapon as in SPECIFIC EXOTICS. PS: These are MY opinions and I am not telling Bungie to nerf everything, just the things that are a disease.

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  • Ssshhh there there....its ok to cry you will get gud later on

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  • Would have been quicker to list the things you DON'T want nerfed.

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  • LOL! It's pretty obvious that this guy is getting destroyed in PVP.

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  • Edited by Drking7287: 2/28/2015 10:20:46 AM
    So you basically want us to use pillows to fight each other? Much of your information is a flat out lie. Thorn is not that hard to overcome. Invisibility is crap in PvP if you can't see them it's your fault. Blink shotguners show on your radar is it that hard for you to move? I almost never get shotguned anymore bc I learned to be mobile and counter them before they get in range. Bladedancer will fall to a single Ghorn shot. You claim gg is overpowered compared to radiance bc gg gets up to 4 1hkos. Well guess what with heart of praxic fire a radiance warlock get up to 14. Up to 12 fusion nades and 2 melees all 1hko and those are just as guaranteed as gg if not more so since radiance gives dmg reduction PLUS an overshield with melee while the gg gets nothing of the sort. When radiant skin and flame shield are active the radiance warlock has the highest dmg resistance any character can obtain in the game. You want balance the get rid of the dmg resistance and overshield during radiance and you only get a maximum of 3 grenades and no special melees. You should also have to use your exotic slot just to get a 4th grenade. Or we could balance it to bladedancer and you keep the g resistance but loose the overshield and every nade you throw uses up radiance duration also you can no longer do anything but throw nades, no melee and no using your gun. That sound fair? While we're at it lets also nerf the warlock melee range bc it's straight up broken. You can melee outside shotgun range giving you a shield for basically nothing and burning the target. Not to mention its homing auto aim bs. It's basically impossible to miss with it. It should at least be made so that it only has that range when fully charged like blink strike or throwing knife. The hunters melee range becomes very short when the ability is on cooldown and Titans always have low range charged or not. Doesn't sound fair to me. You really do just sound bad like you can't counter anything so you cry about it instead.

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  • The only thing i agree with is blink. You cant counter it. But whatever i just get on with it and play the game.

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  • Just make every weapon a one shot kill & 2 rounds in the mag(possible 2 kill, 1with body shots), should make things pretty even for weapons....lol

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  • Edited by italoipo: 2/28/2015 8:22:24 AM
    Sooo what your saying...you suck and everything is OP.... Hey lets get rid of the crucibles.... I think they did a great job balancing with this job. A lot are crying red death is OP now nerf it... If you're good with a weapon other feel its overpowerd... Yeah TLW is a beast but you have to be close and kill quick but if you are not alway in motion a lot of times you kill someone and then you are killed... I sniped a lot over the map with hawkmoon and now i still can but i need much more time between shots to 2 shot kill so if you stand still its your problem. And they are called super not suckers so yeah leave them as they are, maybe they can recharge slower in pvp but thats it. If you get constantly wrecked with shotguns in a match change your playstyle for this match. Don't run around like a chikin. Think before you move

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  • You had a strong start, then it just went downhill really fast to the point I've come across the decision...you are just a bad player all the things listed above have a way to kill them. Learn a strategy and implement it. Don't be an asshole and cry for nerfs just because you can't kill anything otherwise you are just another asshole crucibitch that is breaking the game more than it already is broken.

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    • Dude the last word is good but if you're truly a better player you could outgun someone with the last word

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      • Ok, I read it. You have an extremely poor understanding of this game's mechanics. There are multiple fallacies throughout your post. I realize you're a window licker what with the caps lock but please do think before you speak.

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        • You are upgrading the final round perk on your spear which makes you a cheap hack. The final round is the most broken thing in PVP. End of story.

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          • I disagree with just about everything. Sorry not sorry, it is what it is.

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          • Dude you started off really well, the start of your post sounded like you were coming at this from a mature level headed way.....it was all downhill from there. You listed pretty every single component, super and weapon except for your what your character has or uses. A few points I also find annoying as you do, the last word I'm looking at you, but I don't find them game breaking, and I suck at crucible, don't believe me? Check my stats, I'm rubbish! But I still enjoy it. As do so many other people! You think it's fair to expect bungie to change such fundamental aspects of the game just because you can't adapt to well-known aspects. Really dude if it's so game-breaking for you then don't play PvP.

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          • Bastion and First Light literally solve all of your problems.

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            • Funny how you play as a sunsinger and don't mention nerfing fusion grenades or flame shield. Funny how you say nerf Bladedancer but you've never played as one. Funny how you make a huge nerf thread and your stats indicate that you just suck at pvp.

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            • Edited by SarsparillaGorilla: 2/28/2015 6:40:28 AM
              Or, how about separate pvp and pve stats entirely so they can buff/nerf whatever retarded shit you kids are crying about these days without ruining the game for pve players?

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              • "He thinks the update was about balance" http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/403/Girls.png

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              • I don't really agree with much of your post, but boy, the Last Word. I'll be shooting a guy and I'll get a 111 damage Critical on the second shot after I'm already aimed in. The hipfire bonus is broken beyond belief.

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                • Go play Halo if you want Balance, Thats what I do when I just wana play on equal terms... But I actually like the unbalance of crucible currently, It feels like there's more action. Also #Biased

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                  • The only disease are you cry babies ruining the game for everyone else. You simply cannot stand being killed by anything. Everything is OP to you muppets

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                  • Git gud scrub.

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                  • where is the #satire tag

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                  • Might as well nerf everything until we are all using the level one auto rifle from the very first mission. That's what these posts seem to go for. Makes no sense to me. Nerf it all bungie, who needs guns anyways, let's just punch only.

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                  • I respect your opinions but I only agree with 2 of your points.

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                  • I agree with TLW and Thorn having a really high TTK with a lot of bullet magnetism, but the rest of your post is complete rubbish.

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                    • Can they just take pvp out of this game so I don't have to hear these little kids complaining about how they died Jesus you would think this is a cod forum

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