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Edited by Nephilim713: 2/28/2015 6:55:46 PM
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Update is cool and all but I think another rebalance needs to happen. (PVP)

Before I express MY THOUGHTS, I want to go over a few huge issues that still live in this game's PVP atmosphere. People, these are my opinions and mine alone, so if you do not like them, can you express why? I do not want to see "lol gitgud, kid" or "lol you suck" or "lol look at your KD" posts. These posts are what is killing this very community. First, I am not a kid, so do not call me out on that. Second, these things are DIRE situations that need to be changed, and if you do not agree, you are either defending them, or living under a rock. This will without a doubt attract a lot of hate because I know how many people use these weapons. 1) The Last Word (Yours not mine). Let me tell you why this gun is such a plague in crucible and after patch 1.1.1 still is. Bungie, what the -blam!- were you thinking when you made this gun? If I remember your exact words, you people said EXOTICS ARE NOT MEANT TO BREAK GAMEPLAY, but feel overpowered. Well, shit, Bungie, you clearly make some exotics feel damn good, but the last word is a completely different story. This gun is the most broken gun in the whole game. The hip fire on this gun does not even require you to aim and it hits so damn hard. This is a problem in a game you deem "skillful", Bungie. It is a problem because ANYONE can use this weapon and dominate a whole match no matter how shit they are at the game. If you use the last word, you are a total noob and a plague to this entire community. Let me say this again, YOU ARE A PLAGUE. Bungie, the last word is insane and you people know it. Get off your arses and actually rebalance this damn gun. The issue with this gun is the perk called "last word". This special benefit alone lets this gun do insane damage and have insane hipfire. This benefit needs to be removed, and the full auto fan fire benefit should replace it. It will feel less broken and match other exotics out there. Anyone who used last word knows how boring it makes the game, Bungie, a exotic rebalancing 2.0 is needed! Couple this with gunslinger's trance, or blink and you are the ultimate noob this game has ever seen. I do admit that I take out my last word when there is a plague of them. 2) Thorn. Ah, thorn, the gun that is super hard to get, feels so rewarding, and burns you as well. If someone has Thorn, only last word can beat it, depending on how good the person is with it. I will not say much about thorn, but it shouldnt be able to hit you from a mile away. You people didn't nerf the range enough, Bungie. In my experience, the only way to beat it is with a fusion rifle, or a shotgun, or if you get the first shot in with your primary. Hunter's with thorn and last word are unstoppable if they can press a trigger. Thorn does not have an aimbot, but it is plaguing the crucible and is limiting our weapon options. 3) BLINK. GET RID OF THIS IN PVP. This ability is super super broken. How fun is it to shoot and then a person randomly teleports in the air and shotguns you in the face. No, there is no skill when using blink, so stop being in denial. Blink and felwinter's lie or any shotgun, really, are another plague in the crucible. Blink is stupid and there should not be crazy shenanigans in an arena shooter like teleporting. Get rid of blink, or put a timer on its use. Inb4 blink takes skill or blink is not broken. Oh and Bungie, who's lovely idea was it to make hunter's be able to blink in blade dancer form? This is super-duper broken. Blink and nova bomb is also a very cheap combo. 4) BLADEDANCER. The most overpowered thing in the game and even last word has a hard time beating it! This is just insane. Hunters get a 50% defense increase and can run around the map INVISIBLE and even throw arc waves from a distance. Easy fix: Make all supers like blade dancer so we have some sort of balance. If a nova bomb whiffs, that is it, you dont get a SECOND CHANCE. Radiant Skin does not even have the sheer defense power of a bladedancer, and what is even more stupid is dying from a single headshot, which bladedancer's live. Two Gjallarhorn's to the face doens't even kill a blade dancer. One hit of a bladedancer super puts a warlock in radiant skin at red health. Overpowered crap needs to be nerfed. My solution: Nerf the defense of a bladedancer or make him have a certain amount of strikes before he can use slash again. This would create balance and an opening to kill a bladedancer. 5) Golden gun: Self-explanatory: One shot kills and you get FOUR with the helmet and it lasts such a long time. Radiance only gets a one shot melee and nothing else is one shot unless you stick someone with a fusion. Claws of Ahamkara or Hotpf is the only way to guarantee one shot kills in radiance. Reduce Golden gun to about 6-7 seconds and it will not be such a problem in crucible. 6) Special ammo: Not everyone wants team shotguns and team snipers in a clash match. Put the special ammo crates to spawn every minute or so and there would be more of a weapon control thing going on. Skyshock is the worst offender in this category. Special ammo should NOT give you primary ammo. It should only give you special. Primary should be for kills and kills alone. Someone has 70 bullets and has last word? You know he can get more, right? 7) Fist of panic and panic nova bomb: Give us a notification when they have it. I cannot count the number of times I shot at a titan and he fist of havocs me. 8) Invisibility: This should be exclusive to patience and time. Get rid of it. I cannot count the number of times a hunter camps in a corner invisible and just shotguns me. 9) Fusion rifles: The ammo has been reduced and so has the blast radius, but they are still damn overpowered. I am looking at pocket infinity. 10) IRON BANNER: Make this more than control and bring something like it as a permanent playlist. I think the no radar playlist will help some of these problems, but a weapon and general rebalance needs to happen again. Weapon as in SPECIFIC EXOTICS. PS: These are MY opinions and I am not telling Bungie to nerf everything, just the things that are a disease.

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  • bring back ap round penetration

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  • What I see.......cry cry cry only kill me with the guns/grenades/supers I deem ok. (Which is none)

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  • Lol only one character and its a warlock... Surprising that there's no warlock nerfs

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    • How cute, your title should have just been "Hunters are OP because I say so".

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      • The only valid point here is 10)

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      • So basically everything is OP. Would you like us to just line up so you can pick us off one by one?

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      • I use the last word. I don't do too bad with it but I don't own lol

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      • Edited by Moot: 2/28/2015 11:39:40 AM
        \ \ \ | ) ) <--- hurt. Real bad. / / / You're making warlocks look bad.

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      • I'm going to try and summarize this in a TL;DR "Bungie, pvp kills me, nerf it" Seriously though you just complained about around 85% of destiny. You either need to stop playing PVP or just accept things for how they are. Just saying.

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      • Git gud kid

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      • "What's his butthurt level?" "It's over 9000!"

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      • Git good

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      • Funny, in your post you claim to not be a kid, and yet you absolutely sound like a bratish crying one in your following "rebalance" rant. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You're a first class n00b. Lol, check out my outdated internet lingo. But it really does apply to you in this instance I'm afraid.

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      • Definitely a warlock crybaby GG.

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      • Edited by Wonderwyrm: 2/28/2015 10:39:08 AM
        Pretty much nerf everything because I suck at the game

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      • You have greatly overreacted. You are complaining about so many things it was hard for me to realize you weren't trolling. I disagree with everything you said. There's a reason why bungie hasn't fixed [b]your[/b] issues and they never will. You are wrong. If you believe bungie cares so much about [b]you[/b] as a individual player that they will reshape pvp to fit [b]your[/b] personal play style you are insane. If you want a simple multiplayer with few choices and limited individuality in gameplay go check out call of duty. Last, I'll never judge a player by there kdr in this game. I judge players by their actions and attitudes. You are a lousy destiny player if you believe bungie should make all the changes you mentioned.

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      • Blinkk shotgun can be countered if you don't back pedal like a coward. it's good for closing distance in a straight line and that's it. I personally get disoriented when people move erratically while I'm doing it. Keep moving backwards though and I'll win that battle every time. Arc blade is flat out not as good as you make it out to be. I get killed by all kinds of different combinations when I use it. Snipers, rockets, shotguns, lmgs, primaries if I'm too far away, and other supers. Thorn is great. But only at close to mid range. Which is exactly how handcannons are supposed to play. The last word gets murdered by shotguns and fusion rifles in cqc, and if you can't outgun them from mid range that falls on you. Golden gun is not op. Just stop. Even with symbiote you can get 4 kills, tops. And that's assuming you don't miss. Maybe more if you use keyhole and combustion, but that's few and far between. You want a notification that sometime has their super? Look in the bottom left corner. See the guy who has a merciless streak? That's most likely a guy with super. You would have been better off calling this a list of things you're too bad to counter.

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      • Sounds like you have some serious cloak envy.

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        • Edited by George RR Martin: 2/28/2015 9:47:33 AM
          You really cannot cry about other classes being overpowered when you haven't even tried them yet. Blade dancers are easily shut down by special weapons and supers. Heck primaries would work as well. If you have even tried blade dancer super in pvp, you would know it all relies on timing. It might net you 5 kills. Or it might just get you 0 at all. We all know how quickly our super runs out and how easily we're shut down by other guardians who know what the doing. Since the hand cannons nerf, TLW is more of a peashooter at mid and long ranges. Also, when do you see people actually use the hip fire out of melee range? Have you seen [b]any[/b] twitch streamers use it at all? Thorn no longer 2 shots at mid and long ranges if you didn't choose the range perk. If you chose the range perk though, it would be hard to hit two precision shots without the stability perk. And no blink is [b]not[/b] overpowered. The height that blink achieves is so bloody low it's almost a joke. Shot gunners and fusion rifle users wouldn't be a problem if you utilised your radar and proceeded cautiously around corners when your radar is flashing bright red instead of running in and shouting leeroy Jenkins before being shot in the face.

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          • Edited by Goro: 2/28/2015 10:12:56 AM
            Oh god... Why? Why do you do this? Just stop it, please. Its not even funny.

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          • [quote]People, these are my opinions and mine alone, so if you do not like them, can you express why? I do not want to see "lol gitgud, kid" or "lol you suck" or "lol look at your KD" posts. These posts are what is killing this very community. First, I am not a kid, so do not call me out on that. Second, these things are DIRE situations that need to be changed, and if you do not agree, you are either defending them, or living under a rock. This will without a doubt attract a lot of hate because I know how many people use these weapons.[/quote] Let me stop you there. First you ask to respect your opinion on Destiny's PvP, only to say in the [i]next[/i] sentence that [i]if[/i] I don't agree with you than im naive or in denial? Don't think for a second that will fly. Your post doesn't deserve my time. I suggest if you want your thoughts treated with respect you extend the same respect to this community. Instead, you are just adding to the problem.

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          • "These are my opinions and I'm not asking bungie to nerf everything" No, you just asked them to nerf everything apart from sunsinger.

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          • You ask for people to treat you with respect and answer positively but then go on a 4 page rant over the various weapons and supers you are obviously being owned by. Many others have cone to terms and adjusted their tactics and gameplay to compensate for these things which have been in the game since launch by the way. There have been many deplorable Nerf fests along the the way because of self centred posts like this one. Don't play PVP! How radical is that? Bungie should not be tailoring the game (both parts) to suit your personal preferences. All these silly moans have a PVE knock on effect but I suppose that will not matter to you will it? Adapt or quit

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          • Git gud kid

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            you're SOOOO wrong with TLW mate, i have it, even use it from time to time, yet i still suck Major League! xD ...anyways, let me ask you what weapons are YOU using in PvP?

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            • Ssshhh there there....its ok to cry you will get gud later on

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