It just took me an hour and a half to do atheon on hard with a group of guys who ran through CE normal in 29 minutes. The reason why? They weren't getting oracles down fast enough. Mind you everyone in tis group was a 31 or 32. I saw MIDA, Thorns and words of Crota being used on oracles, just to list a few. Do people not realize how important oracle disruptor is?
Thanks for all the replies guys good to see that a lot of people use oracle disruptor primaries. I'll also have to give Super Good Advice a shot as that seems to be a favorite amongst you guys
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If a group isn't managing to clear oracles I inspect each player. If any more than two people aren't using oracle disruptor primaries/praetorian foil/SGA I just leave. I don't want to waste an hour of my time getting frustrated. I play to have fun. You have the checkpoint now so start your own group on lfg. List that you want people 30+, confident with relic and using oracle disruptor primaries. Will take five minutes to build the group and then you'll beat it first shot. Much better.