I thought we pretty much explained it all in last week's thread.... But, [quote]Welcome to the Bungie.net public forums! Please read the rules carefully before posting. If you have any questions about the rules, feel free to message a Forum Ninja. [i][b]The Bungie Community Forum is for all topics directly related to the Bungie community itself, the Bungie.net community, and the Bungie.net website. Additionally, this forum is for discussion about World Domination, Bungie itself, and Bungie lore.[/i][/b] -Achronos[/quote] That pretty much summed it up back then and is still how I look at it today. [url=http://halo.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=55733729]The entire Rules and Community thread from B.old[/url] If anyone is interested in seeing why this entire subject is a thing today. In other words; -NO LFG -NO Recruiting for ANYTHING -NO Xur ANYTHING -NO Destiny Weapon discussion -NO Destiny Class discussion -NO Destiny Mission discussion -NO Destiny Competitive discussion (Crucible OR IB) -NO Destiny Raid, Nightfall, Weekly discussion -NO Destiny RNG discussion -NO Clan Advertising The name Community has been so diluted and mistaken from what it ever was before, that all new people think that ALL THINGS DESTINY ARE COMMUNITY. - [i][b][u]IT ISN'T[/i][/b][/u] Community was everything else that wasn't in the regular game of the time's forum. I don't know what it is supposed to be today. We're nearly 2 1/4 years into B.next and we're still having to try to sort this out? The ONLY reason we're here talking about it now is because all the rules and forum management was suspended for a year, and never enforced once the ninja's were given back their moderation tools. So something in the guidelines to them had to change. We didn't. Inevitably this topic is much larger than simply "What is the use of #Community". It could be argued that Community has no place anymore and that it falls under the realm of Off Topic. The problem with that is basically #Off Topic itself. It is predominately patrolled by a group of people who self identify as "The Flood", still. The Flood was never a place for many of us in the past. It was and often times still is an unpleasant place, now more so than ever with the absence of actual, enforceable rules. The CoC today is near meaningless and all too many threads in Off Topic take full advantage of this. So for me, Community was and should still be a "safe" place to post and congregate away from the septic tank that Off Topic can be. {insert self moderation tools use here) <<< Which helps, but does not eliminate or curtail rude and egregious behavior. Since there really have been NO guidelines since B.next for what the forum was for, we old guard have done what we could to try to keep B.Old Community in place. Since there really have been NO guidelines since B.next for what the forum was for, new people use it for anything and everything, and many get angry at us old guard for trying to maintain B.Old's Community. So if you really want to (and imo you do need to) get into this, there is more to it than just simply #Community at stake here. I don't know why things were changed in the move to B.next, but B.Old WORKED. B.next continues to instill chaos and members being displaced. In short - That's not Community. I'd add that with the manner that people are allowed to post today, you are encouraging the new and future generations of B.netters to learn from the poor posting habits, rather than the those who actually care about this place and try to keep a sense of , how should I say this,...... Community.