Hey guys, thought it was my duty for people that did not know or were having these issues with their plasma that Bungie did address the static hud issue with the April 16 update. You need to go into settings, go to right side last option "accessibility". On top right you will see HUD opacity. Choose low to be super safe. I have been playing since then on my VT60 and it has solved my problems. I can't give kudos to bungie since they knew about this back in the beta and did nothing before release. Plus I had to stay away from a game I loved for almost a year and a half. But bungie did make things right and the game never leaves my tray. So thank you Bungie.
Since Bungie has stayed silent on the matter of patching the HUD since NOV., I thought it
Might help them to understand how
Many people play on a plasma TV. So if you play Destiny on a Plasma, reply to this thread. Also note if you have stopped playing due to the image retention damage that the HUD causes on a plasma.
I play on a panny vt60. I have discontinued playing in early Jan. Due to the screen burn that the HUD caused. Will not play until a transparency and brightness patch is issued for the HUD as well as the option to remove the HUD. Thanks
As an update, I don't want to use this thread as a debate of the best tv's for gaming. I get it, lcds for gaming are better. That's your opinion. Let's stick to the topic which is to compile how many people play destiny on plasma tvs and which of those people have had burn issues. And if you have had your lcd burned by the HUD, please let us all know because I have read that it's a problem there in extreme circumstances.
2nd update. I appreciate all of your feedback. It's truly helped in zeroing in on a trend of the size and type of plasma sets that have been affected. Please keep this thread going as it can only help all of us affected by learning of how many people out here have the same exact predicament.
I do not believe I have read one person with a 2011-2013 panasonic, Samsung, or LG plasma TV with 3d that has not had the screen burn issue. If you have one of those tvs and have not had an issue, please comment what you are doing to prevent the long term image retention of the HUD. Thanks.
EDIT- just read on the bungie weekly update that update 1.1.2 would be focusing on some things to make the game play better. Deej claims that if we have mentioned it on the forums, the user experience teams have it on the white board. Here is one of the things he mentioned they are working on
"Audio and Visual – Not everyone wants to see or hear a game the same way, which is why we’re looking at providing more options."
Very vague but gives a glimmer of hope. Until we know we have a fix, keep the thread going with your plasma TV experience and Destiny.
Edit 3/20/15- the visual updates were colorblind options which probably has nothing to do with the Plasma TV destryoing HUD. I'm shocked and a little beside myself that they are not addressing this issue. Remember, last time commented that it was being looked into was Novemeber. 4 months ago. Trust me bungie, the problem has not gotten better with time. Only more and more TV's damaged by your lazy oversight even though the players told you about this during the BETa. It's obvious now that they don't care about plasma TV owners.
7/9- it's been 8 months since Deej said they knew of the issue and are discussing it. And still no update on a Fix. At this point I demand a response. I payed a total of $94.00 for the game and dlc. If I would have known of what the game does to TV screens, I would have never purchased the game. Simple as that. So either fix the game or give my money back or don't be surprised if a class action lawsuit shows up at your door.
9/15-Taken King has arrived and along with patch 2.0, Bungie still has not fixed the HUD transparency leaving 10's of thousands of plasma TV owners with no reason to support their game. We are almost a year since the last time a Bungie rep mentioned that they were aware of the issue and discussing a fix. Somehow all this innovation happens but a simple transparency patch for the HUD cant be done. Seems nuts that this is that hard. Since Bungie refuses to acknowledge 10's of thousands of people who are having the same problem, I will use the one voice I have left and not purchase "the taken King" until they provide a fix. I encourage all of you to do the same. Maybe they'll realize by looking at their ROI that there really is enough plasma owners to warrant a little developer time to fix this issue that the game has had since BETA. My tv is worth more then their game and their are plenty of games out there that don't damage my plasma screen.
9/15- here is a description of the problem affecting plasma tvs. Hopefully haters will understand that this is not entirely a plasma problem but a gross mistake in engineering a game for the masses:
Non opaque or transparent HUD is what plasma owners need. That means you can see through the HUD. Here's the problem in a nutshell. Everyone knows Destiny is a pretty dark game. The worst thing for a plasma TV is static bright Colors. White being the worse, yellow probably next. If it was a fine white or yellow line that was static, plasmas anti-image retention system would probably protect the tv because the pixels would shift from time to time, preventing overuse. But in destiny, the HUD,the images of your guns, the ammo count even though it moves, the yellow "special" charge bar are so large, non detailed, and bright on the dark screen that literally you are aging those pixels much earlier then the rest of your screen. Remember, the white and yellow areas of the HUD are not transparent, they don't move enough, and they are too large for pixel shift to make a difference. So when you watch other content, what you see is a darker areas, on your screen that happen to be in the shape of any of the bright white or yellow elements. You can't see the damage the HUD is doing playing destiny because the HUD never moves and is the brightest thing in the game. It's other content, especially off white backgrounds like the Ice when watching a hockey game where the damage really shows. This damage is not the same kind of image retention where you watch something, it leaves a ghost image of a TV logo, and it will go away when watching different content. What this is is premature aging of the pixels that make up the HUD that will only go away when the rest of the TV ages as much as the areas that support the HUD. Which means it takes a lot of time watching varied content and especially no playing of destiny for the entire screen to even out. It took my tv 3 months to even out the picture. And I did a lot of running of bluray movies overnight, Disney wow disc, and other things. The screen wipe will not fix this problem because the wipe uses white and you don't want the damaged pixels to have to show any white if you can. Hope this helps.
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Now, there is a hud setting availabe to lower the opacity! I have not tried it for a long time. But I think the low setting may work even though I feel the opacity is still high even in low mode
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Sad they can't give players simple hud controls. This type of stuff pisses me off. Have you tried pm'ing Cosmo?
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Bungie, your over a year without a response on this ongoing issue. Will you fix the HUD and add opacity or not. We deserve a response. #help #plasma #hud
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I have a plasma tv aswell. Destiny caused some serious image retention. Therefoe, I stopped play the game and will not buy the expansions before they fix som sort of opacity hud. The yellow bar and white weapon logos are too bright. I cannot believe why developers still create static huds? Not just because of plasma tvs, but static logos ruin the game experience a bit. Instead, I would like to see more of the environment in the game. Hud should always be like 50% see through in all games. Please, fix this issue and I will play again. I really love the game but cannot play anymore since my plasma tv gets image retention. I would really like to play Destiny!
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This is the largest and most detailed Feedback I've seen that isn't bitching about content. I feel like this could easily be remediated by giving an option to change colors on things.
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There's a Destiny plasma TV? Whoa! I didn't think anyone made plasma anymore.
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Def had the burn issue I run on a 61 in plasma samsung
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Took me 4 months of running different shit to fix my Panasonic plasma after 2 months of playing Destiny doing Warm up and Cool down image wipie before every gaming session. Only poped in to see if they fixed it in Xpack.. NOPE so i cant play destiny.. Where to hell are cheap amoled 4k tvs :(
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Fantastic topic and really good explanation of the plasma users problem. I'm really hoping that Bungie will do something about it already. It's been a Year after the launch, and we still don't have any choice to hide the HUD or change it transparency... I would expect something like this from EA, who doesn't give a shit about player, but Bungie? Or maybe they have become another greedy studio since partnering with Activison, and they don't core about fanbase problems?
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Been gaming on my Samsung for around 8 years with no issues.
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Add me to the list of people who have quit. I admit I was playing Destiny exclusively and too much, but I thought the protection measures on my TV would keep the problem at bay. Before Destiny, it was AC Black Flag, and that game didn't cause problems. I just noticed the HUD burn in on my 2014 LG plasma, and have had to go cold turkey on Destiny. At least I won't be spending the money on future dlc.
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Yeah I've got burn in. Bungie implement an opacity setting or let us move or disable hid please.
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Plasma and gaming do not make a good pairing
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I play on a Panasonic Viera, But haven't noticed any burn issues. However, I keep my playing time pretty low (3 Hours Max) per Play session. I didn't know newer Plasmas still have this issue, I only thought it was older ones.
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I play on plasma and there is no burn
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Edited by Unforgiven: 9/4/2015 1:48:35 AMfixed [spoiler]http://www.samsung.com/us/video/led-tv[/spoiler]
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Unreal that this still hasn't been addressed.
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I've played on a TV once that cut off some of the screen. It worked on lamps.
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Bungie will realize the extent of this problem when their new DLC sales are lower then projected.
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Damn bro. Im on a panasonic 65st30 and ive never had any issues. Hope you find a fix.
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Any fix for this yet? Keep asking, no word. Please consider.
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I have a Toshiba Plasma and haven't noticed any image burn.
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Plasma tvs have been discontinued for purchasing at most places here earlier this summer. Don't buy defective products or you're going to have a bad time.
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Edited by Plush: 7/29/2015 12:25:31 AMI'm having the same problem, it's a shame Bungie hasn't done anything about this. Pretty sure I won't be buying the Taken King or any other expansions until they do for fear of ruining my TV.
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LG 60" I really don't care about the burn, I only paid $500 for it. I bought it specifically for this game.
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Edited by X1acecombat: 7/28/2015 2:04:38 AMbump i have a Samsung plasma, but i don't notice any screen burn after prolong period of playing