I've noticed that my friends and I have become quite adept at running the VoG since its become outdated thanks to Crota I was thinking of new ways to make it harder for the ultra hard mode (if that's going to be a thing) Ungodly - Shields ... Shields for everyone (even the lowliest add gains a shield) Committed - Team is locked from orbit Stock up - No ammo drops ( better stash some synthesis) Seeing double - If an enemy isn't killed within thirty seconds it duplicates Surprise - Atheon has a chance to drop ... himself "Hey guys I got another atheon's epi ... Wait no it can't be ... ATHEON (team has to fight again) Dizzy - Is anyone else afraid of heights? prone to blindness and nausea (spinning screen) especially around maze and parkour Swarm - you thought epic was hard Enemies are ... everywhere Out of time - Times vengeance is cut in half and only gives a fraction of a damage bonus Hope you like these ideas! I'd like to hear some of yours too. Post in the comments and let's see what you have to say on this! -Rain