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Edited by John Cena: 10/18/2015 2:55:04 AM
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If people have cable internet and still red bar look at this:

This is for people who game on wifi and use Spotify while gaming. If you are using an all in one(router and modem) replace it if you can. It will gimp you're speed and literally cut it by half. Go buy a DOCSIS 3.0 modem and it will give you +10-20 megas for free. You can always bug the internet provider you use to upgrade you for free. Also upgrade that router to a dual band, where you have a 2.4/5 ghz connection. It will separate the bandwidth usage and you can control what takes priority. I was paying for 100 down and 10 up from Comcast but due to their shitty modem/router combo, I wasn't getting my promised speed. So I went out and bought a new DOS 3.0 modem by Motorola and an Asus dual band router. Now I'm getting 181 down and 12 up. It allows me to game on wifi while I stream Spotify while I play PvP. If you go to your internet settings click on the speed test option and if you are only getting anything below 10 down and 3 up, you will lag. All together it cost me around $240 in hardware to upgrade. It's a little pricey but I will never have to pay for rentals for a long time. If you can't afford it than bug the Internet provider you use to get getter hardware to rent. Hope this helps a bit people. O SNAP ITS TRENDING!!!!! Edit: Will be expanding on the network set up instead of just the hardware tonight/tomorrow. Also Destiny servers are located in or near Las Vegas.

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  • I've begged with Comcast for a year to get me something other than this modem router combo ... Won't happen and I'm not paying for it

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  • 37.5 down 21.3 up

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  • WTF 181 mbps download ? my shit is like 3mbps half the time.

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    • We had terrible wifi performance from the router/modem supplied by Comcast.(model TC8305C). We reverted to the older Cisco router that we had been using (Linksys E3000), and with that we're getting equivalent performance to ethernet (50 Mbps DL, 6 Mbps UL) with about a 20% drop-off in DL speed in the worst parts of the house. We have our devices placed to allow easy ethernet connections. Question: Why is it that Destiny thinks our NAT Type is 3 when my PS4 detects Type 2?

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      • Edited by Jimmy Rustlerrr: 10/23/2015 7:07:03 AM
        [url=http://downloadmoreram.com]Download More RAM[/url]

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      • Down/up has little to do with lag. It's latency and jitter.

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        • Mi Internet is already at 150 download speed and 140 upload speed :)

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          • I read that as cabal internet rather then cable

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          • Bruh. I got 2.7 down

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            • Edited by FuzeMainIn2k17: 10/18/2015 4:20:29 PM
              I think its unfair to ban people with bad connections, many of the reasons resulting in bad connection is completely out of the players hands, stuff like location, ISP throttling etc

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            • I saw a lot of technical text, I'm gonna ask a question: I have a pretty solid router, right now I'm connected over wireless to my xboxone The wireless is in general pretty good but I have been thinking about trying to thread wiring up towards my Xbox to put it on wired network Is this worth it? How much of an improvement will I get out of this and is there anything I should do to maximize success if I do choose to set this up?

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              • Or get uverse so you're not sharing your bandwidth with the whole neighborhood.

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                • Edited by Business mayn: 10/18/2015 3:47:33 PM
                  I have a 42 down and a 4.33 upload speed. Is that any good? Whenever I play crucible sometimes the match lags a lot and I'm afraid I'll be banned from crucible

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                • 5 Mbs down is plenty for gaming. 2Mbs up, would be pretty close to sufficient. I am a network admin for a city, not some random Best Buy sales dude, so I have a pretty good grasp of network mechanics. The real issue is network bottlenecks (too many devices on Wi-Fi often). Even when devices don't transfer a lot of data they still send small packets, that need to be queued by a router; which can result in packet fragmentation and loss. Even a query response time from point to point can cause lag, if you take longer than you should to respond to data requests from the host you get lag, even though when your device responds to the request it sends that info quickly. Use wired, it can eliminate a lot of the issues you might be having. TL; DR: Slower end of the spectrum of speeds? Use wired, and give it a fixed IP with port priority (QoS), meaning all data from that IP gets to "cut in line". I've helped people set up quality gaming on 1.5mbs DSL.

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                  • You have some good tips and meanwhile I agree with you on some of the things. I do want to point out a couple of issues (and I know you said this for people who use wireless for gaming). (1) Wired connection is always better than a wireless connection mainly because of the isolation it provides from the outside interference and lack of hindrances that are always in the way of an RF signal. Your ping is never stable on wireless because there are too many things going around you in the environment which is why gamers tend to avoid wireless. (2) Speed test doesn't show the whole picture of your connection. Try pingtest.net and see how much jitter you have in connection. A-B line rating is what you should strive for to play without lagging out the whole lobby. (3) Comcast's rental modems have built in routers, which are pretty crappy and for those of you who don't know. Comcast has a second band transmitting out of your rental/lease modem/router called "Xfinitywifi" which can be used by any Xfinity customer. You can't disable it and it will always be transmitting using your bandwidth and you won't know who is connected to your router via Xfinity wifi. Currently you can call them and ask them to disable it but the processing on the router is very slow and causes NAT issues with PSN/Xbox Live. I really suggest buying your own standalone modem and hooking up to a nice customized router. (4) DOCSIS 3.0 doesn't automatically give you a speed boost. Speed depends on your package and your cable company's supported protocols (modulation standard, bonding channels... etc). On a 25Mbps/download package, Docsis 2.0 is as good as a Docsis 3.0 (given 38Mbps is max for DOCSIS 2.0 in ideal conditions). It also depends on how many channels your ISP supports to provide high bandwidth. Anything over 35Mbps requires a DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem. These days Motorolla SB6121 is pretty cheap and provides adequate performance for most users. Get the one which is modem only. (5) Routers make a huge difference and you can use QOS to help you with gaming if you have multiple devices hooked up. Given enough bandwidth, a few users streaming videos on the network won't affect the gamer and a good router can prioritize packets in that regard but with low bandwidth you might want to shut off devices to get consistent ping times. A dual band, specifically 5Ghz, only helps in environment with a lot of interference. 2.4Ghz is used by most devices these days so its mostly interfered with, 5Ghz is relatively less congested and is an upgrade on performance but 5Ghz range is crap. So overall 2.4Ghz for range and 5Ghz for performance.. you have to experiment with it to find the right setting. Again, for gaming I highly suggest going with wired. Even a "powerline adapter" is better than wireless, given you have good electrical wiring inside the house. And powerline adapters are cheap. (6) Look into powerline adapters, it provides better/stable pings over wireless and can be hooked up using any power plug near your console. Speeds wise Wifi can be better but ping stability is better on wired/powerline, which is the "red bar-ing" issue people have when playing online. (7) There are many good routers out in the market that provide good gaming performance. I prefer the ones with DD-WRT firmware such as Asus, because they offer so many customization options.. Most consoles don't support anything more than "n" standard so getting an AC router purely for console gaming won't provide any benefit.

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                    • This.

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                    • [spoiler]5 moves of doom[/spoiler]

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                    • I take it you don't know a great deal about modems and routers. A gateway can be docsis 3 as well, or even 3.1, all depends on the model. There are plenty of gateways that are 3.0 and have dual band. If you are getting lower speeds, it's likely the specs of your equipment do not allow higher speeds. Simply using a gateway will not be the cause, though the particular gateway you had may. Ubee is one of the big gateways that come in 3.0 with dual band, and will allow full speed to pass through along with having full control of usage. Just a heads up.

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                    • http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1512876609 Is that bad guys?

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                      • For starters set a static ip for your console, port forward all ports required for your ip/mac of the ps4 for both playstation in general and all that your favorite games use (easy to google a list or check at the dev faq pages) and ofcourse always prefer a LAN cable over wifi (for example i got over 30 signals if i scan for 2.4 ghz on the standard 12 channels so it really messes up signals). Apart from that a good modem is always a good investment like OP states.

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                      • I actually have this problem where I red bar on a land cable when my internet is 150 Mbs... Idk why that is but it doesn't happen very happen. It's literally only destiny that does it to

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                        • I just changed from wifi to direct LAN for 30 bucks and a CAT 5 cable just to test it out. Connection was fine on WiFi but downloads were taking a long time My download speed doubles from 30mbps to 60mbps.. Do it

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                        • [i]comcast[/i]. That's your problem. Not my modem/router.

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                          • What if your internet is a college's or a university's? (Routers aren't allowed here)

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