Why does everyone complain so much that sunbreaker is so good in pvp? Every class has an op subclass in crucible. Hunters, ever notice that you can one-shot [cross map] with your golden gun, and with enemies exploding you can destroy teams in groups? Or that the Shockwave thing for blade dancer can hit through ward of dawn? And blink with a shotgun...well thats all i need to say about that one. Or how about not only can your bow kill, and cause other guardians to share damage, but can ALSO cancel sunbreaker, and literally any other super? And warlocks, how often do you see guardians escape nova bomb? And if they do, switch it to throw three and watch what happens. Or, self revive right in someone's face and look at their reaction. Also, you know it's possible for you to have 3 grenades for that same class right? And that damn electric thing, holy shit, that actually really messes me up, a lot, and I actually do okay in crucible. All I'm trying to say is, stop complaining and play to your subclasses strengths. I apologize that now you actually have to use the slightest bit of strategy in crucible. Game on, and titans, reply if you have anything to add.