They basically turned the Nightfall into the weekly heroic. It kinda sucks!

It feels like fixing something that wasn't broken. I lot of people felt obligated to do the NF straight away? Really? Never heard a single thread asking for this change or complaining about it. In fact, for most people I know, doing the NF is the thing they look forward to every week and my friends list plays a lot more destiny every Tuesday.

I was hoping to find a thread that bungie initiated but it looks like I can't. I posted this on the FB page but it was suggested that I also throw it onto the forums as well. Dear Bungie - I'm not sure about these changes to Nightfall No longer forces team back to orbit??: I think that was the single best (and challenging) thing about it. To temper ones gungho attitude which is fine for other situations and be a bit more methodical in your strike. To talk more to your fireteam members and watch each other's back. To have players learn more about their character's armor vs recovery vs agility stats and how they help or hinder your innate playing style and fireteam composition. Removing of the xp/rep bonus buff?: You've followed what seems to be an industry standard approach to patch releases & weekly server resets. Granted you don't have the downtime that WoW has every tuesday but you do have a fixed date on which everything is rejumbled and we look forward to seeing what the week has to offer. When Destiny was first released this day would go by unnoticed because most of the population weren't at the level (light, gear, and skills) to take on that week's nightfall. Thus seeing the person with the flaming helmet (nice throwback touch by the way...lol) was a VERY cool and motivational sight. It was a symbol that someone had worked hard and achieved something quickly. When we saw those players in crucible it felt the same way. As the game went on and the population grew we soon saw the majority of people committing their time to clear content early in the week. This for many that play the game is not unusual as MMORPG raiders had the same 'activity cycle'. Clear everything by Sunday/Monday, prepare for the reset, then BOOM... grind to clear. In those cases it was the same content over and over again (speaking specifically about progression raiders not casual) but that mental toughness helped keep good teams together. You learned from those experiences by still providing a grind BUT you made it enjoyable because you really didn't know which modifiers to expect. Sure we learned the rotation of strikes after a while but whether it would have a specific burn or ANY burn at all coupled with the later addition of HoW modifiers made this a really enjoyable and set goal each week. Get in on Tuesday, clear it, then work on the rest of your goals for the week so you can use that bonus xp to cut down on the grind. Even if you gave us a means to provide a temporary xp/rep bonus like the glimmer bonuses do it would not be the same. Those bonuses are fun but took nearly no effort to gain. Kill a major or ultra, get a black wax idol, 'eat it', go kill and be merry... Easy Peasy... Setting the xp/rep bonus as a tangible reward that never fails, always helps, and never is duplicated like gear drops can be, means players have real reasons to hop on and get their groups together to take it on. It means when my clan is on we make it a point of asking 'Hey did you get your nightfall done? Yeah I did mine but I'll help you out....lets go". I bet if you go back and look at the stats you'll see players were doing multiple attempts because it was either a good glimmer run/reward for the grind or because they were helping out a friend. Please reconsider this decision. Here are some things you CAN consider to make nightfall more enjoyable. Randomize the modifiers as the fight goes on. You have your base modifiers but if the group wipes have 2 modifers get switched. You'll start off Omnigul with Solar Burn and Lightswitch but end up with up with Grounded and Arc Burn. Wipe again and you'll have Small arms and Angry. Greater rewards for fireteams clearing it with no deaths. If they take the time to grind hard and never die give them something more than an 'achievement'. Bonus motes of light or additional engrams. Just something to show/reward them for that additional effort. Perhaps even a different color flame. Blue for a regular clear but Red for a legendary clear (no deaths) As always...thank you for you work and dedication to giving me and everyone else a great game.

Nightfall needs more modifiers to make up for not kicking to orbit upon fireteam death. My ideas: Silence: voice communication is disabled Tri-burn: solar, arc, and void damage from any source is greatly increased X blessing: damage from X weapon class is favored Delusional light: guardians can potentially damage each other Jammed: supers are disabled

JOHN CENA!!!!!!!!! http://youtu.be/TUQ3nVoN-ko

Everyone seems to be missing the fact that the Nightfalls will now be at max. guardian level (40). Since you aren't over-leveled, g'horn won't be moving forward, the 30 sec. revive timer (instead of instant) will put more pressure on the other guardians, etc. it won't necessarily be easier. Dying at Skolas doesn't return you to orbit either, but that didn't keep a lot of people from not being able to do it at all. It might be more difficult after all.

Still waiting for a in-game update.

What if people dont buy the TTK they wont be able to do nightfalls

Let me get this straight... year 1 exotics will be making the leap, except your favorite one...

Basically they seem like thoughtful changes - I am curious about the strange coin supply...

With this and legendary marks with all characters it seems they got sick of people using 3 charcters.

I like everything except for the fact that they removed the [b]Nightfall[/b] modifier from the Weekly [b]Nightfall[/b] Strike.

So let me get this straight. [i]"Oryx lies between you and these activities"[/i] Meaning you HAVE to have completed the raid in order to unlock the nightfall?

Great news, but do we still get coins?