i put this out only because since the auto rifle debuff they have become so under powered its ridiculous. all the people who use them kinda got craped on too if you think about it. i suggest that whatever % that they lowered it they should raise it by half that amount. at least make them worth using. they are a very good suppression weapon. but they should have smoe oomf to it.
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so i have done some experimenting and research and found that low lvl enemies (dreg,goblin) take roughly 1-2 shots with a scout rifle, 2-4 shots with a pulse rifle, and roughly half to a whole clip with auto rifles. it really should not take that much ammo just to kill a low lvl enemy. a 1/4 to an 1/8 of a clip should be enough to take out low lvls. this was done with several different versions of each class of weapon on lvls 26-30 enimies and this is how it avg out.
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Meanwhile in Iron Banner last weak, I did very well only using Suros Regime throughout the duration. You people are simply not using ARs correctly, they require a different touch than before.
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Silimars wrath is a joke. I got iron trolled.
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Suros is still not to be underestimated
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They should put the impact back to what it was before they nerfed them
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Auto rifles need a mad buff mostly the necro I was so happy when i got but when I used it, it was sooo bad I threw it right in my vault.
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I actually used my vanquisher yesterday and did rather well.
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I agree. I love auto rifles, but I can't use them in PvP because I cant compete with the likes of thorn or The Last Word. I don't understand why they weakened them; why not just keep them the way they were, and keep the buffs on the others?
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Still plausible in normal crucible.
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Exactly... People need to learn how to survive and play the game. This is what I was told by a friend when I first started playing. I enjoy this game, just tired of people complaining About nothing Leave the game alone (the vision) Give value again to the weapons, the armor And for all the complainers, maybe you should leave.
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I would recommend the high rate of fire auto rifles get reclassified as SMGs and get: + -significantly reduced horizontal recoil -tighter hip fire spread -buff to their rate of fire (from 900 to ~1000?) - -reduced aiming accuracy slightly -reduce base zoom levels This would make make them both a valuable weapon and give destiny a new weapon class to play with!
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That's what happens when people constantly want guns nerfed. It sucks. But read the forums. It's nerf this and nerf that. It's not how can I get that gun or do I just suck?
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Auto rifles = no skill
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Yes they are
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Not to mention in PvE activities auto rifles are just useless! I kill more dregs with my awoken male dance routine.
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I love my silimar's wrath with the perks it has. Check it out on my hunter. They do need a overall buff though. I would recommend the slower ones get their old headshot multiplier back (from 1.25 to 1.5 in pvp) to promote accuracy and let them kill much faster when used accurately. I would recommend the high rate of fire ones get reclassified as SMGs and get: -significantly reduced horizontal recoil -tighter hip fire spread -buff to their rate of fire -reduce their aiming accuracy slightly -reduce base zoom levels This would make make them unique from auto rifles now that they would be their own class.
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Assist rifles
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Please check out this weapon balancing article and give feedback. It's a good read, thanks. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/117004290/0/0
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The nerf has been in effect for awhile now. Time for them to revisit that matter and post the numbers on the forum to show us where we stand weapons wise. Let's see what there efforts have given us for better or for worse.
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I think they should just go ahead and relabel them as SMG's. Because thats basically all they are.
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Agreed
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Only really been using the auto rifle full out over the past couple of weeks and really starting to enjoy them but yes they could use a slight buff
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Auto rifles need to be buffed. They got stunted way too much...
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Bumpp