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3/29/2015 8:52:39 PM
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Bungie had never been this bad at balancing guns

Other than the needler in halo 2 there has never been an OP or UP gun by Bungie. Then Destiny came. The entire Destiny universe in unbalanced.
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  • I want things to be wacky and unpredictable, I like the idea that you can be the best damn PvP player in destiny and still get OHKed by a hulk smash every now and then. KEEP DESTINY WEIRD.

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  • There have also never been this many guns. A lot harder to balance 3 classes, 2 sub classes, and 100 weapons. Halo everyone was the same and there were but a few guns in comparison. Not even close to the same thing.

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    • You are crazy if you think the sandbox balance in halo was ever good. Great games, and some of the most fun I've ever had with friends, no question, but terrible weapon balance. Was there any non-power weapon in Halo 3 or 2 worth using other than the BR (and mayybe the needler)?

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      • The Destiny universe is immensely more complicated than the Halo universe, FYI.

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        • because they've never had such a wide variety of weapons and ranges. there's so much close quarters combat now is why. so if you get beat with a scout rifle by a hand cannon now apparently that guns OP

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          • I read your title and my first thought was the halo 2 needler

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          • Crucible should have a preset revolving loadout per match. A pre-determined primary, secondary and heavy. Everyone has the same weapons in other words. Iron Banner is where we can take our own weapons, and see how we do....this could solve so many issues if implemented...

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            • It's the maps not the guns

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              • In Halo everyone had OP gun so you couldn't blame dying on the gun. You just sucked more than the other guy.

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                • Halo also never had multiple tiers of weapons nor did they have to deal with as large of an arsenal as Destiny has. Just saying.

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                  • Yeah, having to move while shooting autos just to survive with a sliver of health after going against one player gets irritating after awhile

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                  • I think they are balanced just fine except for the recent AR nerf. Seems like the real issue is that people don't play to the guns strength. Adjust your play style based on your gun and gear. Nothing is great on its own. It's all how you maximize perks.

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                    • The pistol in the first halo is the best gun in history

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                    • Everyone complains about hand cannons. Everyone complains about fusion rifles. Everyone complains about shotguns. Everyone complains about snipers (perks). Everyone complains about auto rifles (they think they're UP. But they still perform just fine in capable hands.) Nobody complains about scouts (oddly enough seeing as how they're awesome for everything but close range). Nobody complains about heavies (because they're supposed to be OP. Otherwise what's the point?). Balance achieved. Nice try though.

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                      • After getting 30,000 plus kills in crucible I can easily say this is the most unbalanced pvp I've ever played.

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                      • People are always going to cry about this, its really getting out of hand. Exotics should be more powerful than legendary weapons. Thats the point of them being exotics. The only thing that is going to some what make the cry babies shut up is if they make PvP lobbies weapon specific. 1 lobby for hand cannons, 1 for pulse rifles, 1 one for ar's ect.....no secondary or heavy weapons allowed. I think this will be the only thing to quiet down all the crying about people getting killed in PvP all the time. And honestly all you people crying arent mad about what weapon is killing you its you constantly dying all the time. If they listened to you guys all the time then everything would be getting nerfed all the time. Say they nerf pulse rifles again and make ar's relevant again. Then everyone would be using ar's all the time and you guys would start crying about those. So the nerf the ar's again and hand cannons are the most used weapons, you guys would start crying about those next. Where would the cycle end with you guys? They cant make everything balanced because not every gun is the same. If thats what you guys want then they should remove all the guns but a selsect few from the game and give them all the same perks and stats. How fun does that sound? Sounds alot like cod to me.

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                      • What other game has guns that are much much better than other guns? Now what publisher publishes for that game too? [spoiler]the maps also scream 'COD MLG maps' too! It's a conspiracy! [/spoiler]

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                      • CE Pistol 2 and 3 Battle Rifle Reach DMR You rarely needed to use anything but these.

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                        • I think if they nerf any guns it should only be for PvP

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                        • The assault rifle sucked balls

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                        • The servers and lag aren't helping

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                        • Shotgunferno. Nuff said

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                          • Well I mean the ither games have set load outs so...

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                          • Edited by Alfsac: 3/29/2015 9:27:22 PM
                            Well' it's their first time making a shooter with Rpg aspects. I wouldn't mind balancing as long as they kept the guns for PVE untouched if the whinnies, I mean pvp players, cry.

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                            • Because there was only 2 weapons you start with in halo normally battle rifle and assault rifle. Power weapons were always fine the way they were so they never had to balance anything.

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                            • Eh, in halo, none of the guns were balanced. No one really cared, though, because everyone had the same chance to get them on the maps. None of this RNG keeping me from getting that OP gun.

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