Red Death fires three impact 36 in fast succession (108 per burst) while Suros does 31 at a slower pace. Also, the burst akin to placed shots like a hand cannon is an advantage in maps that are almost always cluttered with obstacles. Red Death won't be for everyone, but if you're a good player that can land those bursts on the head, you will outgun a Suros owned every single time. I've been in matches with my Suros where I was seeing the 31's go off one after the other and the RD owned still gunned me down. Then to add insult to injury, his health would skyrocket to full because of the RD perk. So yeah, I'll be a first day buyer and will be taking it to the crucible. Just not sure if it can outgun a Thorn which has been my go to weapon since Bungie killed the ARs. Edit - turns out post-1.1.1 Red Death can do 36 crit and not 32 like I had originally posted. So, yeah, hammer that nail down good. Edit2 - So I got it and leveled it to where it matters in regular crucible. Imho, I could not be more right. If you have both this weapon and the Suros, it makes no sense to use the Suros over this so yes, Suros R.I.P. (which is the gist of this thread). First, by buffing Pulses at the same time as they nerfed Autos, they made Suros impact weak at the same time as they made RD's impact strong. Then, this weapon heals you for every single kill, this means you can max armor and agility at the expense of recovery because you don't really need it. Single point sling means you can sacrifice some agility to armor which does matter contrary to what some players think. Also, about the "bad" range - I see those crit 36's flying off foes heads for all the ranges I'd use a primary over a sniper rifle, so really what you're all talking about ?? if you used the Suros as a sniper rifle, then yeah, I guess you'll miss out on RD otherwise, I don't think so.