Few thoughts: 1) I really, really, REALLY do not like how PVP dictates the entire flow of the nerf/buff/weapon tweaking system. Bungie, you are walking on a slippery slope here. You're really pissing off a lot of strictly-PVE players. I.E. My favorite weapons are getting nerfed, and I don't even play PVP. I'm sitting here minding my own business and I just got completely hosed! Why? There needs to be a system that nerfs certain weapons in PVP only and leaves them be in PVE. I now know that Bungie has the power to do this, cuz they just buffed shotguns in PVE while nerfing them in PVP. 2. Bad Juju and Red Death just got a HUGE boost, and now will be top-of-the-line exotics. 10% damage boost + other weapon classes taking a hit. I hope you held onto yours! 3. Shotguns. A) Just got an enormous buff in PVE. Double damage, wow. Pair this with the fusion rifle nerf and they should be more viable. B) that being said, you just gave my Universal Remote and 4th Horseman LESS range in PVE? These weapons (and all the exotic shotguns) need to be seriously looked at cuz they are a joke. For any enemies that matter, we can't get close enough to them to hurt them as it is now, you take away more range and we still can't use them at all for any high-level content whatsoever. You're on the right track here with understanding Shotties need PVE help, but you just gave with 1 hand (2x damage) and took away with the other (moar range nerf). Shotguns need RANGE in PVE cuz we can't get close enough to anything to do damage, and they can't compete with the range of Fusions. Until this gets addressed, I still won't be able to use any Shotties in PVE. 4. Auto Rifles. These numbers about the "overuse" of Auto Rifles in "the wild" have to be skewed by low level/easy content like Patrols, Daily Heroics, Bounties. Autos are good for taking out packs of low level trash for sure, but on the game's harder content, Autos take a back seat already to other weapon classes. Endgame PVE is dominated by scouts/hand cannons. I barely have any reason to use any of my Autos now as it is. And Bungie just gave me less. I think Bungie just made Auto Rifles the new Pulse Rifle. I now know Bungie has the power to separate PVP and PVE buffs cuz if what they are doing with shotguns. Autos needed a buff in PVE, not more of a nerf. Do you see the trend? I am a strictly PVE player and I just got blindsided here cuz Bungie lets Crucible dictate EVERYTHING. That's all I can think of now. Bottom line, Bungie you gotta quit hosing us PVE players cuz of crucible whiners. There have been several polls, and the overwhelming majority of your players prefer PVE, yet you continue to cater to the Crucible Kids and alienate the biggest chunk of your playerbase. First there's the Queens Wrath vs Iron Banner debacle, now this. Where is our love? I can't be the only one offended by this? Thanks for taking the time to read my rant. Edit: thanks for liking and bumping this, gang. How many hundred bumps/likes/comments will this message take to get noticed by DeeJ? Keep bumping the crap outta this and let's see! Edit 2: woke up this morning and lol'd. Over 400 comments, whoah. Glad i'm not the only one that feels this way! Keep em coming. #Bungie #DeeJ