We really need a guild where you can't get into it unless you've logged a certain amount of legit raid clears. I've had 3 different teams complain that there's no cheesing anymore. No joke just had a 12 year old sounding like he was ejaculating, a swordbearer who couldn't understand the concept of Crota being mid and right and scrubs thinking running under Crota to get heavy ammo is acceptable. They're always surprised when they get 1 hit as well.