At first I didn't really care about the whole REAL and FAKE 30's discussion until I played the raid today with a FAKE 30. He had 2 pieces of Raid gear and exotic helmet and IRON BANNER Guantlets. Everybody in the fire team seemed to know what they was doing until we got to the Confuxes he didn't even know you couldn't be revived! So I asked have you done the raid on hard? His answer was no when they said you could get to level 30 from iron banner gear I just felt no need to do the hard raid. We did finally finish but we had to carry him through.
I don't believe every 30 that had to do Iron Banner to get there is fake or bad but I finally see why people call them fake.
What are your opinions on the FAKE and REAL 30's?
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Well over the weekend I was the fake 30 who did his first hard raid and was carrying my "real" 30 teammates. You can look and see, both games I had the first or second KD and I never caused the wipes. Good is good. I got shafted by RNG and got my IB gauntlets for it. First hard raid, I got my second and third chest, second pair of legs, helmet, but still no helmet.