At first I didn't really care about the whole REAL and FAKE 30's discussion until I played the raid today with a FAKE 30. He had 2 pieces of Raid gear and exotic helmet and IRON BANNER Guantlets. Everybody in the fire team seemed to know what they was doing until we got to the Confuxes he didn't even know you couldn't be revived! So I asked have you done the raid on hard? His answer was no when they said you could get to level 30 from iron banner gear I just felt no need to do the hard raid. We did finally finish but we had to carry him through.
I don't believe every 30 that had to do Iron Banner to get there is fake or bad but I finally see why people call them fake.
What are your opinions on the FAKE and REAL 30's?
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Edited by Rakuinn: 11/25/2014 6:31:42 PM1. How did he have raid gear without ever doing the raid? (Hard raid...sorry misread. This is irrelevant) 2. You can't get to 30 without one raid gear piece so you still have to run the raid making you at least a little experienced in it 3. Some of the most skilled players in this game that I have seen are the guys owning crucible and iron banner. So please stop with the fake 30 argument. I'm sure those guys who killed it to rank 5 in IB can more than hold their own in VoG