This is the biggest load of hands down bologna I have seen. PVP is the most unbalanced ridiculously poor excuse of game play. [b]For a casual player like myself it's UNAPPROACHABLE! What pisses me off more than anything is THEY MAKE YOU PLAY IT!!!!! [/b] There is no way to avoid PVP. I don't want to play PVP, but they only way to get better weapons is to use crucible marks. The match making is completely flawed because it doesn't take the players PVP expertise into account. There should be a PVP level along with a PVE level. All level advantages are disabled except the fact that all perks are enabled on the weapons, the fact that armor rating and perks give advantages, and the fact that the Classes are unbalanced all make a difference. What it makes for is completely unbalanced play. And don't get me started on the Exotic Bounties! I work my butt off to complete 5 strikes without dying only to find out that I need to get a 25 kill/death ratio! I work at it for 3 days, to get to 19 only to be stuck in a match with 4 level 29 and 30 players and lose all the progress I made. I was never able to match their weapons.... Shot for shot I always died first. I guarantee the first three replies will be "Don't bitch because you suck" [b]Don't get me wrong, I suck at FPS Multi-player and I know I suck.[/b] I will be the first to admit it. With that fact alone, I will NEVER be able to get that K/D Ratio, never, ever, never!!!! But that does bring up a good point doesn't it. How do you get let the players that aren't PVP masters play without being destroyed all day long. This all boils down to one point.... AS A CASUAL PLAYER THIS LEADS TO NOTHING BUT FRUSTRATION!!! Every MMORPG out there puts a MASSIVE wall between PVP and PVE. I loved the PVE and wish the story was on par with that game play, but the PVP is not something that I want to play yet I am forced to and even worse make me play for nearly unattainable goals. Horrible. Hard core FPS Multi-player people will move on as soon as the latest and greatest comes along (next call of duty anyone?) It's the Casual Players like us that keep MMOs going for 10 years and Bungie is doing a great jobs of alienating us.