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Edited by EtherMagz:
10/22/2014 4:39:34 PM
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A question for DeeJ. Regarding the VoG. EDIT
So the community, to my knowledge, is not going to be happy with the upcoming update to the Vault of Glass. My question is for the fine people at Bungie, are you folks listening to us at all? I support the 'baby bumper' 1000% and I am sure everyone else does. Even the cheaters. What I can't accept is that you are messing with our strategy to take on the Vault. You guys wanted us to play the game our way but with the upcoming patch, its not our way at all. I am good in and out of the portal and can handle the relic fine. I am speaking for those who can't and are use to their roles. It is going to create mass confusion when people are going to decide what they need to do on the fly. People will start to get angry at each other. Friendships will be broken. For the frail at least.
DeeJ can you seriously answer me? Are you guys gonna take our request in to consideration? Or are you going to just brush me under the carpet? ( Meaning no answer at all) An answer is better than nothing bro.
Don't forget to like so it can trend. I need supporters if you guys actually want to see if DeeJ responds or not.
EDIT: I forgot to mention. Why aren't you guys/gals addressing the issue where Atheon only sends 2 people in instead of three?
EDIT: After reading a few comments. I like Shadow Hearth's idea
he said:
"I'm fine with the update as long a they put the Atheon random porting in the hard mode difficulty only, by then most players should know how to handle each encounter and role. It's called hard mode for a reason, keep normal alone so fresh raiders can still learn the raid."
This is an amazing idea. I hope Bungie takes that in to consideration.
EDIT: Thanks for all the support! Keep your ideas and opinions coming! I would like to know why DeeJ is not answering. You are under a lot of fire right now. Say something at least. Whatever the case, we will have to deal with this update for now. Which I am fine with.
LAST EDIT: Deej responded. Not in this thread. But his own. I will take that as a response though. Deej, if you are reading this, thank you. Seriously, taking this feedback and any other feedback and sitting down with developers expressing how we feel means a lot. Yes i understand that some things cant always go our way. But to hear that you are relaying how we feel and what we want is good enough than ignoring it completely. I will continue with feedback like you wished.
Link to his response:
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/74341953/0/0
He did not mention me or anything about this thread. But to my knowledge, I was the only one on top of the trending page with feedback so I am going to assume this was partially directed towards me.
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people need to stop being carebears and kick up their spice in battle. doesn't everyone want to be the pepper master
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1 ReplyEdited by CruJones33Rad: 10/21/2014 5:45:55 AMAre we seriously complaining that a game we everyone complains is too repetitive is changing something to make it different and less repetitive?
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meh its an MMO im ready for the next raid or Call of Duty not sure how excited i am bout Masterchief edition. But HALO IS GONNA BOSS THIS GAME HARD
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6 RepliesI know I'm sounding very negative in saying this: But I find it absolutely ridculous that they still continue taking things away instead of giving! I'm really annoyed at the devs for this. The VoG is still glitchy - what about[b] fixing the BUGS first[/b] before annoying the hell out of people? Here the heroic bug story from yesterday: Yesterday I got kicked out of the raid at the end. Blam! Group died. Then another friend got kicked out later with Atheon at 5% only. Blam! was the relic holder. End of story group died. In another sequence the shield didn't work at all. Blam! All died. Then only 2 people got teleported. Blam! let's do it again. In the end we had to give up after 4 hours because some of us had to work the next day. The "reward": I got 2 spirit blooms.
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1 ReplyI'm going to enjoy the randomness in teleportation so before you say the whole community think more hardcore gaming.
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Halo master chief addition will suck up more of the player base (BECAUSE ITS SGT AVERY JOHNSON IN HD)
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It's all about keeping interest in the game at this point
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The game won't change
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They ramake this game worse than Steven Spielburg with starwars
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2 RepliesDeej never answers xc
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1 ReplyMistakes, dumb. This is so everyone can have the same (and sorry to use) # destiny #experience. This is good.
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People just need to stop complaining about the raid and go do some crucible, now that's a real challenge
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3 RepliesI've only done the Vault of Glass 3-4 times before, and I have never held the relic, but what if Bungie would allow a 100% chance for the relic holder to be teleported every time? Would that not also solve the problem?
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1 ReplyDeej: In the next Patch of destiny we will patch every story mission and everything in destiny will make no sense anymore. Anything that benefits you we are gonna patched them all like the assholes we are
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The Atheon bumper should have been done from the start, actually surprised they didn't catch this before launch. Same with the Templar fix on the sniper platforms. I guess they think the community wouldn't use that stuff to their advantage. The random teleporting idea, I believe should affect normal too, for the reason that everyone needs to come together for the raid rather than just having one guy call the shots. The relic should be a known tool to use, it is an ultimate weapon if wielded correctly. People just need to come out of their bubble and step up when it comes to the raid. The raid is an endgame goal after all, and needs to be challenging. The challenge is gone when people run it like Archon Priest were they can just hide under the platform towards the back of the map, or in the room on the left on Septimus Prime (they need to have the Captain come out if people are just hiding in that room)
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ct9705Low body streamer - 6/17/2024 3:22:12 AM
VoG and trying to play the new patch is somewhat chaotic if no one knows the role to take with the Templar and not to mention the connection problems With the Xbox One. I have had the worst experience every in gaming with trying to stay in the game. The friends that I have played with are a good group of players, but I found it annoying to be booted out of a game from your end with some bogus error. I was removed from the game 7 times and being the good group of friends they invite me back, but I put and end to it and told them to get someone else. I have done a side by side comparison with my X Box 360. I have no problems playing in the Crucible or the Vault. I do not receive the the amount of errors at best guess its a 1 to 20 ratio between X 360 and X ONE. So for the other players who have had this happen it is a downer to go through so much in the vault and come away with nothing. Maybe and it a crazy thought. Maybe just maybe Bungie can come up with a mission to attain the one of the Vault weapons, but not the Exotic Weapons to get players to actually want to play the vault mission and not have a 0 for items collected. Its great game I don't knock the some of the patches but having been logged in for a fair amount of hour played and I feel like I picked the short straw. -
the raids getting too easy. i like this idea personally to bring the communication and teamwork aspect of it up. keep doing your thing Bungie / Deejay.
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What they really need to do is fix the zombie praetorian in the Venus portal (he magically gains health even when you hit him and he has no health) and the portal bug itself! Where you walk through and don't teleport back to the realm with Atheon. If they fixed these bugs then the random teleport wouldn't even be a concern I think.
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5 RepliesAnother huge VoG issue is running through the portal and not going back to Atheon. Can't stand it!!
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Bump 10000000%
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3 RepliesBungie: we made a game with a glorious lack of content so we're gonna consistently make insane changes to force you to relearn current content in an effort to stave people from getting bored and selling this title. We also expect to lose the entire Xbox community when they discover that both DLC packs have parts exclusive to ps4 until at least fall of 2015. We don't care if you don't like the game, all your monies are belong to us. See you starside DeeJ
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Rest assured, the community is an active participant in our dev discussions. Your voices have been heard. Motion Denied --Deej
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Here's my whole issue with this update. They are taking the hardest part of the game, making it even more complicated...and for what? So you can get ascendant materials when you finish everything? Okay then. If they want to make the raid so hard and so difficult that only the top tier players will finish it, then make reward drops consistent and guaranteed. I'm failing to see how doing the hardest thing in a game to receive possibly some of the easiest rewards is in any way incentivizing. The WoW players will, no doubt, chime in with the examples from their raid styles. But this isn't WoW, ya know? Raise the difficulty. Throw in more adds, give more things shields, random teleports, longer mazes with more gorgons. I don't care. But, damnit, when I and other fine guardians make it through to victory of your toughest challenge, I want something to show for it other than possibly the worst shader I've ever seen. I don't care if I get duplicates every once in awhile. Even make the raid so you can only do it once a month or twice a month, but the drops should be guaranteed if you're going to make it even more difficult than it already is for some. Raid veterans will glide right through this because they've already had the time to learn. The learning curve for the raid will now be so much higher for novice raiders and will take twice as long if not longer to even be proficient at one task.
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15 RepliesGoddamit what don't you people understand? The raid should be the pinnacle of achievements in Destiny. You should not be able to jump on the back of a good team and get carried through to the best [b]rewards[/b] in the game. VOG should involve team work, everyone working together. Admittedly, my first couple of VOG's I did was simply by finding a team on LFG, and jumping in right at atheon. It was quick, easy but most of all - cheap. I felt like i had cheated the game. There was no sense of fulfillment in the rewards I achieved. My next runs I did fresh and actively participated. I was honest and upfront with the raiders and told them that I was inexperienced in certain areas. They calmly explained and I quickly learnt. The first time I completed VOG from start to finished, actively participating along the way (including teleporting at atheon) was by far the most rewarding experience. All it sounds like to me is, if you can take this analogy, you're angry that the CEO is making a ton of cash - you want to get there but you can't be bothered going to university or putting in the work effort. Children need to be smacked
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Yes random teleport in hard mode only
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2 RepliesI agree with you. But sadly enough, I don't believe bungie cares. They keep tweeking and nerfing, which some are good, just cause they feel its not thier vison. I understand they are the ones who are supposed to set boundaries but most of these are turning people off. I have two char at 29 and yet to do the raid. Because I'm waiting for friends. Matchmaking would be Nice. But now after the change, even if it did have match making I could possible be put in the portal and have no -blam!-ing idea of what to do. So I may just skip the raids altogher going forward. Come November I'm going to halo. I may not come back. Sadly 343 took over for bungie and out bungied them.
