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2/9/2008 1:28:22 AM
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Bungie Weekly Update: 02/08/08
OMG Fix Melee. OK, we will - and here's what we're going to do...
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I would prefer the halo 2 melee myself, but I'm glad they are actually fixing it.
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Good to see that Boosters will have to earn their EXP instead of cheating
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I just want to know what the big hold up is. hmm, don't bullets have a certain amount of dammage when they hit? why not the melee? why does it have to be who has the more health? if you get hit it should do the same amount of dammage. I was a huge halo fan before halo 3, now I'm just "halo who?"
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It's about damned time they fix the melee. Now all they need to do is make the hit points more like the campaign; that is, the human weapons shouldn't necessarily be the most powerful or most sought after. And not eve, normal campaign, I'm talking Campaign on Legendary!! The whole reason the Covenant was kicking humanity's ass was because of their advanced weaponry. Now that seems like Bungie has lost sight of that, completely. WTF Bungie? The weapon hit points system should be distributed more like the campaign's hit points. Everyone thinks AR is great, but it sucks compared to Halo: CE's AR. The Covie weapons need to have more say in games, besides the extremely inconsistent Mauler. Try using the Spiker - it's not nearly as bad as you think, if you can LEAD the shot correctly. And fix the brute shot- it should be extremely powerful compared to how it is now. (remember halo 2? 2 direct hits would usually kill, but now it takes damned near a whole 6 round clip!) And yes, I know 90% of you will disagree.
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So what exactly was fixed? Its still a crappy system...same time melees with both people dying are extremely annoying and I really don't see much change. Go back to the Halo 1 system, or even H2, that would still be better. Oh and thanks for fixing (even mentioning) the spread of bullets on the BR (like pre-H2 patch) or the problem with hit boxes. But hey, C+ for effort.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Piles of Ril3S 1st post ...hey death, um no you couldn't. of got first post i was refreshing my page anxiously because i am legitimally the BIGGEST fan of the melee fix flaw. finally!! [/quote] Shut up, kiss ass. Yeah, Commando shoulders, that's great, Now what about the Security shoulder glitch? I've gotten more than 750 gamerpoints, Bungie. I want my shoulders back.
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Anything about BR spread?
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finally a melee fix
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Well, where do I begin... I never went to school with Brian, but I lived in his area, and was in 9th grade when cancer took him. Although I had never been close to him, I was close with his brother, and I felt the impact of Ewings Sarcoma pretty close. Brian Morden helped contribute to some of the voices for Halo 2 (look at the credits... you'll se he helped), and I remember he did that for his make a wish. He was a great kid, and it's hard to believe it's already been 5 years. So, as a close family friend and firm supporter of this organization, I thank Frankie for donating to a great cause. We must beat Ewings Sarcoma (and any cancer for that matter!), and this is certainly helping. Onto the game... the melee fix is certainly great... you will still get rants about it, I'm sure, but now it's definitely more fair, so that the one that does considerably more damage will get the kill, or it will end up in a tie. I also can't wait to put my commando shoulders on my elite :) Finally, I'm even more excited for the new maps... just a picture... please?
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3rd page not bad
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Third page! Woohoo! Suck it noobs! [/sarcasm] Seriously Bungie, I about crapped myself this morning when I saw the update. Glad you enjoyed the pics! They are your brain-children. [Edited on 02.08.2008 7:00 PM PST]
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thank you for the good, informative update.
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One of the greatest updates ever. Great, thought-out information about the melee fix, a special valentines day playlist, info about the new maps, custom hoppers and kick ass halo 3 pictures? OH MAN! I can't wait to see the fixes, play on the new maps, and from the description of Cottonball, it made me smile so much. I think everyone pretty much knows what we map this is. THANK YOU BUNGIE. You truly do listen to the fans, and it shows. You guys are awesome, keep up the good work and you better put Griffball in that custom games hopper! See you online!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] s4ndp4p3rm4n ...Now what about the Security shoulder glitch?[/quote] It would be nice to hear something about this. The silence makes me wonder if Bungie even knows about it...
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I think Bungie's melee "fix" is just "band-aid" reaction to a flawed system. We've been waiting months for a good fix to come out and you give us this crap, in effect, making very specific but minute changes which will not make the problem disappear. This is bull. The melee is BY FAR the worst thing about Halo 3. Disregarding the slow walking speed, the slow pace of changing weapons and pulling out equipment, the melee eclipses them by gargantuan portions. This is not a satisfactory result from months of waiting. Why not make the melee like Halo 2? It is stupid not to make it like the old game since very few people had problems with the melee. WHOEVER MELEES FIRST SHOULD WIN. I don't care what you say. Even if you had host advantage, it was still easy for player to adapt (especially good players) to the change latency from one game to the next. Now you have some stupid joust, or "contest" whatever the hell that means? This does not make any sense at all. Unless there is some "ulterior motive" like the physics being compromised or some other GOOD REASON, you should return to Halo 2's melee version. It was better system with fewer complexities that you could get used to in gameplay. H2's melee also made the gameplay more fast paced and realistic because honestly if you punch a guy first in the real world he is going to go down first or incur more damage (all things being equal) than the later puncher who has lost momentum and power from getting hit first - effectively bring their shield down sooner and killing them sooner. I used to be very good with the melee in Halo 2 and now I get my attack maybe half of the time in Halo 3. You guys really disappointed me with this update. I will wait and see how the melee turns out to be "fixed," but any version that uses "invisible health" and those with a lower shield to determine a winner is a stupid system. I also don't like the idea of having to go in and press "Good Connection" for every game, it was annoying enough having to go in and change it every time I changed playlists. Now it resets and I have to change that every time? Man, "disappointing," you guys really let me down. Oh and thanks for making the new maps free for everyone even though we all paid $75 for the game already. F'ed up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primoboy360 I dont fully understand the melee thing But I still think they need it to be the FIRST ONE WHO PULLS THE TRIGGER IS THE ONE WHO WINS. It's like....just they way it needs to be[/quote] did you read the update? The problem is, with online play there is no clear "First One" They have to make it fairer for those people that don't get host. In H2, the few times I got host I would win by 20 kills. Although it was fun, it wasn't fair.
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Best Update Ever. Good Job.
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Very interesting article. Great update and actually on time!
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I can has recon?
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Ok well if you're not making any physical changes to the BR you should increase the size of the Reticle to about the size of the H2 BR. I'm sick of getting a false sense of range and aiming. [Edited on 02.08.2008 7:31 PM PST]
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wow great explanation tho it seems not everybody gets it... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] evil elf hacker I would prefer the halo 2 melee myself, but I'm glad they are actually fixing it.[/quote] anyway new maps sound great whats the release date? (hope u sell that Mister Chief for lots of money could really help BMF)
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Will this auto update affect films or film clips that were recorded previously?
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Nice update!! AND MEELEEY IZ FIXED!!! Although I was looking forewad to a picture of Cottonball.
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The forge hopper is going to be awesome! Hope my map's on there How much you wanna bet that [u]everyone[/u] will haf the commando shoulders on when they fixed
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thanks for an update with content. finally.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SharpShot1512 The forge hopper is going to be awesome! Hope my map's on there How much you wanna bet that [u]everyone[/u] will haf the commando shoulders on when they fixed [/quote] I'll take that bet.
