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But those aren't facts. My xbox one is a lot better than my ps4. Xbox live is a lot better than psn plus. I'm not a fan boy either I have a playstation, ps2, ps3, ps4 and I'm a psn plus subscriber. So this isn't a biased statement.
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  • Still opinion, just like all 10 of the points in my OP were opinion. 2-4 was said so that I could look at the comments and see if people were treating each other any better than before. To a good extent they are! ...though there are obviously exceptions. Overall I think there's definitely hope for this community.

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  • I have offended the fanboys....

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  • This is your opinion and you are entitled to it

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  • You don't say? Thanks for pointing that out captain obvious

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  • Any time

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  • They are facts. Notice how i cite my sources? Here is a list of why the PS4 is the best next gen choice for Destiny: 1. PS4 is more powerful (1.8 vs 1.3 Teraflops) (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 2. PS4 has faster GDDR5 Memory, which has twice the throughput of the ddr3 found in the xbone (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 3. PS4 cheaper to buy (Why would someone pay more for a less powerful system?) 4. PS4 has more games than any other next gen system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games) 5. PS+ is better value (6 free games a month, across 3 platforms. It’s also cheaper than Live and has a better selection of games) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(PAL_region)) 6. PS4 is 3 times more popular than the xbone (http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/31/playstation-consoles-outselling-xbox-by-more-than-31/) 7. Has a player base that is 3 times bigger, as a result 8. All cross platform games look and perform better on the PS4 (name a single cross platform game that looks/performs better on xbone, bet you can’t) Here is the proof: http://m.au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates 9. PS4 is focused on games. Doesn’t have focus on TV and Sports like the xbone does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw) 10. The xbone Dashboard is filled with advertisements http://www.sticktwiddlers.com/2013/06/28/xbox-one-dashboard-created-with-advertising-in-mind/ 11. The xbone Dashboard in general is a complete mess that is hard to navigate (http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbox-why-the-baffling-incompetence-of-the-xbox-one-interface/) 12. PS4 didn’t make you buy a kinnect and then remove support for it 6 months later, effectivity screwing over early adopters 13. All Microsoft cares about is feeding you more ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc&app=desktop 14. DixectX12 will not save the xbone or help game run at 1080p http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/187549-directx-12-is-coming-next-year-but-it-probably-wont-help-xbox-one-games-run-at-1080p 15. PlayStation platforms have exclusive content in Destiny 16. PS4 is the lead platform for Destiny 17. PS4 has the largest player base in Destiny of any of the 4 platforms, has more pre-orders than any other platform 18. Was able to render the Alpha and Beta in full HD 1080p, so there won’t be any nasty surprises when the game is fully released 19. Has controllers which don’t require AA batteries or firmware updates 20. PS4 doesn’t have a giant external power brick and the console itself is much smaller

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  • To be fare Cheese it's easy to search the internet for articles that agree with you. I agree that the PS4 is a more powerful system but that doesn't make it better overall, if that was the case PC beats all and the discussion should end there. What makes a system better is what the individual is looking for in their system. More of my friends were on the xbox so that's the system I got. The exclusive contend you speak of is timed and the xbox will get it next year. The Xbox will be the lead system for The Division next year and they will get exclusive content just like PS4 did for Destiny, it doesn't make it a better system, they just paid more for that privilege just like Sony made deals with Bungie for Destiny. I'm sure the falling out between Microsoft and Bungie also had a huge impact on the big middle finger Bungie gave them. Having another stupid back and forth about "what console is better" is just a waste of time. Play on your console and let others play what they will on their console...who cares?

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  • Edited by Rappo000: 8/25/2014 11:46:07 AM
    You care. Obviously. Look at all those words..... There is an easy way to tell if you are a xbone owner.... what can you tell me about this picture. What is the xbone exclusive content in "the division"? Exclusive access to 720p? NSA exclusive access to your kinnect camera (if your dumb enough to still have it connected)? Lol

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  • Edited by Eribos: 8/25/2014 12:01:21 PM
    I care that you are obviously trying to inflame the forums and my reply is to that effect. I don't care what console someone plays their games on.

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  • So....... Can you tell the difference between 1080p and 720p Y/N ?

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  • Send me a ps4. I'll try it and let you know. ( can I get it by the 9th please)

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  • How can your sources tell me what I like better? Power does not equal better. Not one game on the ps4 looks or plays any better than it does for the xbox one. I own both and the xbox one is a superior system, regardless of what you or your sources say.....

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  • Your free to like what ever you want. Doesnt change the fact the PS4 is objectivly better. The xbox division loses about half a billion a year for Microsoft. Playstation is a profit maker for Sony. Look at both companies Q1 2014 financial reports. Microsoft will stop making xbones soon. The shareholders are not happy. "Nah man, they wont stop making xbones because......" Because why? Because Microsoft enjoy losing billions of dollars? Because they like being outsold by the WiiU? In other news: Here is a list of why the PS4 is the best next gen choice for Destiny: 1. PS4 is more powerful (1.8 vs 1.3 Teraflops) (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 2. PS4 has faster GDDR5 Memory, which has twice the throughput of the ddr3 found in the xbone (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 3. PS4 cheaper to buy (Why would someone pay more for a less powerful system?) 4. PS4 has more games than any other next gen system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games) 5. PS+ is better value (6 free games a month, across 3 platforms. It’s also cheaper than Live and has a better selection of games) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(PAL_region)) 6. PS4 is 3 times more popular than the xbone (http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/31/playstation-consoles-outselling-xbox-by-more-than-31/) 7. Has a player base that is 3 times bigger, as a result 8. All cross platform games look and perform better on the PS4 (name a single cross platform game that looks/performs better on xbone, bet you can’t) Here is the proof: http://m.au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates 9. PS4 is focused on games. Doesn’t have focus on TV and Sports like the xbone does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw) 10. The xbone Dashboard is filled with advertisements http://www.sticktwiddlers.com/2013/06/28/xbox-one-dashboard-created-with-advertising-in-mind/ 11. The xbone Dashboard in general is a complete mess that is hard to navigate (http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbox-why-the-baffling-incompetence-of-the-xbox-one-interface/) 12. PS4 didn’t make you buy a kinnect and then remove support for it 6 months later, effectivity screwing over early adopters 13. All Microsoft cares about is feeding you more ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc&app=desktop 14. DixectX12 will not save the xbone or help game run at 1080p http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/187549-directx-12-is-coming-next-year-but-it-probably-wont-help-xbox-one-games-run-at-1080p 15. PlayStation platforms have exclusive content in Destiny 16. PS4 is the lead platform for Destiny 17. PS4 has the largest player base in Destiny of any of the 4 platforms, has more pre-orders than any other platform 18. Was able to render the Alpha and Beta in full HD 1080p, so there won’t be any nasty surprises when the game is fully released 19. Has controllers which don’t require AA batteries or firmware updates 20. PS4 doesn’t have a giant external power brick and the console itself is much smaller

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  • They won't stop making xbones because doing so would take them out of the gaming business. Whether they lose money or not they would lose more due to how bad this would look with consumers, affecting all aspects of their company. The main reason ps4 is leading is because Microsoft did not understand their market base and tried to implement serious changes to the way gaming works today. Even though they corrected this issue, it was too late. The consoles power, online experience, and marketplace didnt really come into play for anyone. Playstation loyalists stuck with ps4, many xbox loyalists abandoned xbox due to microsofts bad choices before the console even shipped. You can argue with sources and figured all day long but ultimately you're trying to attribute numbers and hard figures to human emotion and reasoning. The majority of people who bailed on the xbone did so without comparing, they based their purchase off of popular opinion which was largely based off of microsofts misteps.

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  • Microsoft care about profit. Not games. Xbox division loses money. HTH

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  • Microsoft is losing consumer confidence on all fronts, abandoning their gaming division that they've invested millions into, would undermine their entire business. People said the same thing about playstation last gen, for the exact same reasons. You can tell nothin about a consoles future 1 yr in.

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  • Edited by Rappo000: 8/25/2014 3:28:09 AM
    We shall see. Microsofts 3 big money makers are Windows, Office and Enterprise. The xbox division is a net loss. The sharehokders will only allow billions to be thrown down the devices division black holes for so long. Surface/phone/xbox are ready for the chopping block. The zune has already been chopped, along with microsoft film studio and 18,000 jobs.

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  • Microsift care about profit. Not games. Xbox division loses money. HTH

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  • Your free to like what ever you want. Doesnt change the fact the PS4 is objectivly better. The xbox division loses about half a billion a year for Microsoft. Playstation is a profit maker for Sony. Look at both companies Q1 2014 financial reports. Microsoft will stop making xbones soon. The shareholders are not happy. "Nah man, they wont stop making xbones because......" Because why? Because Microsoft enjoy losing billions of dollars? Because they like being outsold by the WiiU? In other news: Here is a list of why the PS4 is the best next gen choice for Destiny: 1. PS4 is more powerful (1.8 vs 1.3 Teraflops) (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 2. PS4 has faster GDDR5 Memory, which has twice the throughput of the ddr3 found in the xbone (http://au.ign.com/blogs/finalverdict/2013/10/26/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-hardware-and-specifications/) 3. PS4 cheaper to buy (Why would someone pay more for a less powerful system?) 4. PS4 has more games than any other next gen system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games) 5. PS+ is better value (6 free games a month, across 3 platforms. It’s also cheaper than Live and has a better selection of games) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(PAL_region)) 6. PS4 is 3 times more popular than the xbone (http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/31/playstation-consoles-outselling-xbox-by-more-than-31/) 7. Has a player base that is 3 times bigger, as a result 8. All cross platform games look and perform better on the PS4 (name a single cross platform game that looks/performs better on xbone, bet you can’t) Here is the proof: http://m.au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates 9. PS4 is focused on games. Doesn’t have focus on TV and Sports like the xbone does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw) 10. The xbone Dashboard is filled with advertisements http://www.sticktwiddlers.com/2013/06/28/xbox-one-dashboard-created-with-advertising-in-mind/ 11. The xbone Dashboard in general is a complete mess that is hard to navigate (http://www.edge-online.com/features/xbox-why-the-baffling-incompetence-of-the-xbox-one-interface/) 12. PS4 didn’t make you buy a kinnect and then remove support for it 6 months later, effectivity screwing over early adopters 13. All Microsoft cares about is feeding you more ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc&app=desktop 14. DixectX12 will not save the xbone or help game run at 1080p http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/187549-directx-12-is-coming-next-year-but-it-probably-wont-help-xbox-one-games-run-at-1080p 15. PlayStation platforms have exclusive content in Destiny 16. PS4 is the lead platform for Destiny 17. PS4 has the largest player base in Destiny of any of the 4 platforms, has more pre-orders than any other platform 18. Was able to render the Alpha and Beta in full HD 1080p, so there won’t be any nasty surprises when the game is fully released 19. Has controllers which don’t require AA batteries or firmware updates 20. PS4 doesn’t have a giant external power brick and the console itself is much smaller

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  • Chill bro(cheesefactory) states ps4 is better, gives completely valid reasons, [i]with[/i] sources. Xbox fanboy(jaysonsp) gives no source, gives no reason, says xbox is better, then goes on to say nothing else matters.... Seems legit........

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  • Those facts though.

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  • **not starting a console war in any way shape or form** The ps4 actually, statistically, hardware wise is the more powerful console. (Just look it up anywhere). Idk if you meant it as in, in your opinion you prefer the xbox one but, it is a fact that the ps4 is more powerful.

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  • Power does not make it better. I know that it's more power, but it doesn't show. Not one game looks better on the ps4. You fanboys are sad.

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  • Edited by ghandali: 8/24/2014 8:55:49 PM
    Lol chill out man, I'm not a fan boy, I know power doesn't matter, but you said what the post said was not a fact and I just reconfirmed that it is indeed a fact, also if you read my comment through I stated I couldn't tell if you were making an opinion or not. It people like you who are ruining this community. This is exactly what the post was talking about, if anyone just states anything that goes against your beliefs in anyway shape or form you guys call the other person a fanboy, or you start an argument. Plus: all I did was simply state a fact I never said the console was better, since when does stating a fact make someone a fanboy. Edit: also, your wrong saying that games don't look better on ps4 because they do, as they are normally at higher resolution, therefore they look crisper and the visuals are better; I know this isn't a big deal but I am just pointing out that you are wrong. this is a FACT not an opinion, a FACT so no need to bash on me or call me a fanboy.

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  • I didn't start anything, I posted my opinion and you fanboys have gone nuts... You sir are the problem with this community. And I am not wrong. I have both and played several games on both with no visual difference. I am done with you and this tread, I can't argue with a fool, and I feel sorry for you, because no matter what you do you cant fix stupid, yeah I just called you stupid.

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