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Edited by Ingloriouswho98: 8/24/2014 11:26:54 PM
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Honestly, it's amazing how many excuses you guys can come up with for Destiny Seriously, the faster we can admit that Destiny has flaws, the faster we can actually discuss the game Really, do you actually except this game to be [i]the best game ever[/i] or so good that you'll skip school or work for it?? I love Destiny as much as anyone (not you guys though) but honestly it's just a game The conversations you guys hold really worry me "Deej, please cancel his preorder. We don't want him to experience your epic creation" - some fanboy who responded to a legit concern Seriously?? You guys need to admit that it has some flaws No split screen? That's a big flaw "Modern games have no need for split screen" "Split screen holds the game back" Really? If Bungie had added split screen I can guarantee that [b]no one[/b] will be complaining how split screen is such a thing of the past No proximity chat Another big one With how much Bungie is emphasizing teamwork, you would expect a ways to communicate with others right? You're seriously very alone in the "social" world of Destiny "I don't want people raging through my mic" Then mute them Is it really that hard to spend five seconds to mute someone?? These features are optional You don't want them, don't use it They're easy to add but still You guys defend Bungie like they're always right And after the beta, there were obviously many features that we didn't like or didn't see "ITS JUST A BETA" I hate that so much We were a month from launch Did you really except them to add all your beloved features in? Whatever you saw in the beta, that's it From the beta to the launch is just to smooth out bugs or to fix up any technical problems And they really didn't try to hold back in the beta Don't try the "they blocked off a large percentage of the beta" thing "We're treating the beta as its own product. It's going to be big. We're throwing everything we got at this thing" - some interview with Bungie It was advertised as the preorder bonus and its own grand journey Honestly, it left a lot to be desired I'm not going to say what the beta failed at because every game has flaws I'm okay with that It's just the community coming to defending every mistake that pisses me off Now after the beta and you get more and more info, toy realize that the content is much smaller than you thought and that it doesn't live up to expectations You then try to push the problem away by saying "DLC! DLC!" "Private matches in DLC" "More planets in DLC" Seriously, the fact that there are DLCs in the first place is terrible The game should come with the full game Not as a disc with downloads later on Trust me, DLCs don't offer that much From what I've seen of Destiny, DLCs are likely to include -Couple of new missions -Some new guns and items -New maps Do you really expect this game to be all that?? And when you find a legit concern, you mark it off as a O/1O troll to avoid addressing the problem #Destiny is basically Praise Destiny No opinions That being said, I love Destiny It's a great game Not the best or groundbreaking but very good But this forum is very self defeating You post questions that you already "know" the answers to "Will there be/Will you do/Why would you Blah Blah Blah in Destiny?" How do you know what's going to be in Destiny? You want so much in this game that of course you're going to think that it's all included This is the same argument you use on people with concerns for the game "You don't know what Destiny is like so don't criticize it" Yet you go right back to daydreaming about your beloved features that you want in the game Once (if) you finally realize that Destiny isn't perfect, we can have discussion "Oh this weapon/feature/map/gamemode is lacking. What can we do to fix it?" Or "Oh man, this weapon/map/mission/feature totally sucks. Let's see what we can do to make it better" But there's none of that because you think the game is perfect Let's please come back to Earth and be real Thanks Edit: I'm not complaining about the game I'm complaining about fanboys defending it
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  • Hey man I agree with you. I also think the game was great and am SUPER excited for release. But yeah, this happens with literally every game that I've beta tested. Closed, Open, half a year away, 2 months away, it doesn't matter. People on the main site/forum/board simply will not tolerate any discussion about possible improvements even though that is something that Bungie actually wants to see for feedback. It'll settle down once the game hits. Also, very much like an mmo, Destiny will be worked on and added to over time to both expand and refine what we will be getting in a few weeks.

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  • I am looking forward to it but i see it as a GTA online kinda thing that gets better and better as time passes

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    • I say we talk about what needs to be fixed once we have played the full game for at least a week. Until then speculators gonna speculate.

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    • [quote]Let's please come back to Earth and be real[/quote] Nah, I'd rather stay here on the Moon. Still trying to figure out where that Wizard came from.

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    • People complaining, people complaining about people complaining, and now this guy complaining about people not complaining. Where does it end? I just wish it was 9/9 so everyone could just shut up about Destiny and start playing it.

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      • ^^

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      • You expect reason from Desticles? You're crazier than I thought.

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      • Always this issue with split screen comes up. The last time I played split screen was 15 years ago. Lol

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        • You're pretty wrong on a lot of those posts. Split screen does technically make the game worse, load up Halo 4 and play Complex, then load that same map in split screen, and tell me it doesn't suddenly have incredible framerate drop. For the Halo games Bungie actually made, they would cut textures in split screen and other things just to keep it running smoothly. It's also in no way a 'big flaw', it's an optional thing that is nice to have for some people. Proximity chat is also not a big flaw. In any mode where you have a team, you are able to talk to them. The only place you don't hear people is free roam, in strikes/raids/missions you have to be on a fireteam to play with other people, and that is exactly when you can hear people imagine that. You also seriously underestimate what they are able to do, as much as some people overestimate what they can do. And did you really think people were skipping school because it was "Perfect?" Bitch please, people skip because they want to enjoy it because it will be fun, just like we did with Halo 3 and 2 etc. not because we think it's some magical end-all game that will never be topped. You are a complete hypocrite, if for this line only, "You post questions that you already "know" the answers to", and then you come on here acting as if you 'know' all of these flaws, and that based on your own skewed perspective are 'huge flaws'. Get off your high horse, you are just as bad as anyone saying it's perfect, you are only posting to try to justify your complaints, it's pathetic.

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          • Completely agree with you and glad someone finally said it, and said it well by the way.

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          • Edited by H0RSE: 8/24/2014 7:21:11 AM
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            [quote]No split screen? That's a big flaw[/quote] No it isn't. It's your opinion. [quote]If Bungie had added split screen I can guarantee that no one will be complaining how split screen is such a thing of the past[/quote] I would. I would rather the time/resources put into such a dated/niche feature, be used elsewhere. [quote]No proximity chat Another big one[/quote] Another opinion... [quote]With how much Bungie is emphasizing teamwork, you would expect a ways to communicate with others right? You're seriously very alone in the "social" world of Destiny [/quote] It's all about how you look at it. A game that essentially does all the work for you with things like proxy chat or MM, could arguably be less socially engaging than a game that that has all the parts in place, but makes the player use them. In other words, when you don't have to actually put in any effort or initiate anything on your own, it creates the facade of being a "social experience," when actually it can work against itself, and come off as anti-social, like how social networking sites can be anything but social, providing a "dumbed down" version of social interactivity. [quote]"I don't want people raging through my mic" Then mute them[/quote] Do you honestly think it would be that easy? Like players worthy of muting would be such a rare occurrence, that when it happened, it wouldn't be such a big deal? If virtually any other MP game is evident of player behavior, players worthy of muting would be a daily occurrence, likely to the point where a toggle for proxy chat as a whole should need to be implemented. [quote]Is it really that hard to spend five seconds to mute someone??[/quote] Is it really that hard to join a Fireteam or invite someone to a party? Is there a problem with actively needing to take the steps to be social? [quote]These features are optional You don't want them, don't use it[/quote] If that was the case, it would mean that people with both it on and off would be playing, leading to the feature backfiring against itself, with people who have it enabled trying to talk to people with it disabled. If anything, "the lesser of 2 evils," would be to not have it at all for everyone, since it's harder for players without a voice to troll/abuse/offend others. [quote]Seriously, the fact that there are DLCs in the first place is terrible The game should come with the full game Not as a disc with downloads later on[/quote] Define "full game." Was Dragon Age a "full game" when it released Warden's Keep? Was Mass Effect 3 a "full game" when it released Omega? Was Skyrim a "full game" when it released Dawnguard? Do you think that a game isn't "full" unless it contains all the content the devs could possibly think of, despite the time constraints of the game development process or the the actual space limitations of physical media (discs)? [quote]From what I've seen of Destiny, DLCs are likely to include -Couple of new missions -Some new guns and items -New maps Do you really expect this game to be all that?? [/quote] And you're probably right, but 1) that doesn't mean Destiny is not a "full game" because of it, and 2)full expansions are dubbed as DLC's nowadays, which I expect Destiny to have more than one of. The game is planned for a 10 yr. lifespan. [quote]Honestly, it's amazing how many excuses you guys can come up with for Destiny [/quote] [quote]It's just the community coming to defending every mistake that pisses me off[/quote] [quote]But there's none of that because you think the game is perfect[/quote] Did you ever stop to think that maybe some of these people aren't coming up with excuses, but rather it's how they genuinely feel? That maybe they are defending these "mistakes" because they don't see hem as mistakes at all? That maybe they truly do see Destiny as their "perfect" game? Or did you ever think that maybe these people are being over-zealous due to having high expectations and not wanting to be let down, rather than blind fanboyism? It's a pretty common reaction to fear, in this case, fear of disappointment.

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            • Finaly someone who gets it. Great post man. Couldnt have said it better myself

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            • Edited by Nestroit: 8/24/2014 7:34:50 AM
              Shure it has got some flaws but the overall experience is amazing and addictive, the beta was crazy fun, why complaining? Skyrim and the fallout games had bigger flaws and I would still consider them being at least 9/10 Games, the experience/adventure matters.

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            • Wait i thought you left?

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            • Do you know what is also impressive?? How many times a had to scroll down now that's impressive.

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            • U sound like a lil ole bitch

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              • Here's a tip. If you want to try and be the voice of "reason" or appear impartial you probably shouldn't imply that anyone who defends why certain features aren't in a game or ARE in a game are simply fanboys with their heads in the clouds. People are allowed to have different opinions. It's just as bad as dismissing anyone who has a gripe as a troll. In the interest of actually having a discussion about something other than console wars etc, I'll add my viewpoints on your list. No complaints on split screen? I guess you never experienced matches in Halo: Reach where a team of four playing split screen would grab host and lag the game out if their internet connection wasn't pristine. Leaving it out over those concerns is a legitimate choice in a game with matchmaking going on in the background in public spaces. It's not a flaw if it's a different type of game. The lack of proximity chat? I think it should be enabled when exploring the world and disabled in the Tower with the option of leaving it off all the time. Why? Given the number of people who congregate in the tower I can imagine the personal hell of trying to figure out which person standing on top of an awning in a group of 30 doing the same thing is the one with 7 yapping dogs in their house. The "its just a beta" argument? Most of the time I saw it in response to someone crying because they didn't have enough to do gameplay-wise. It was a smaller slice of a larger bunch of activities. In that context it's perfectly reasonable The whole "A game should be the finished when you buy it" statement in regards to DLC is totally unrealistic and entitled. You're getting the full game. The planned DLC that's coming later is extra AND it adds some content without them going to a subscription model like WoW other games with persistent online worlds (Which by the way consistently offered expansions or "DLC" for a price as well). They aren't making some stripped down hulk of a game that's going to suck and then ask for DLC to finish it. Games like that don't last long enough for anyone to even buy the DLC. NOTHING is perfect, but when I choose to experience art or entertainment I'm spending my time and money to enjoy it, not pick it apart. I have no doubt that Bungie is going to put out a game that's fun to play. It's that simple. Are there constructive changes that can be made to the voice chat system? Yes. Does it make the game suck? No. That's the problem. People want to accuse people of thinking a game is perfect when they defend it, while unrealistically expecting perfection themselves.

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                • DO YOU WANNA BUILD A SNOWMAN?

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                • well this is the best game i have played, that's a fact.

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                • Stfu. Split screen is a waste of time and money. We are all going to have the same experience. Proximity chat. I hate to say it, but i hate most people... and im sure most of us are the same. Maybe a comms system that lets more players link thru a party style chat since you are only allowed 3 in a fireteam. Thats if you choose so as having to many people chatting together can make problems for comminication etc. Its easy enuff to invite someone to your fireteam then to mute everyone. And some will just be annoying on purpose yadda yadda. It was a beta Dlc is dlc. They make the games. We buy them. That isnt gonna change. If developers decide theres gonna be dlc... guess what youre either gonna buy it or not. For you i would say if you see dlc you dont buy it. Ill just play and be happy with what i am given.

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                • I think you like the game. There's things you want in the game but you know that launch is around the corner so, you are upset because you know Bungie is not fixing your flaws. Let me tell you that everyone has there own opinions about Destiny. Me personally I love it. Its new to me I guess thats why I love it. Im a COD fanboy but how is it that a game like this is keeping me from playing COD advance warfare this year ? I made it very clear that COD is no more for me that I was ready for a change. Destiny happen to shed that light that I was waiting for. My gaming spirits were dead until I participated in Destiny (Alpha). It made me feel something I haven't felt for a game in a long time and that my friend is excitement. I don't think I'm the only one who feels great anticipation for Destiny. Its not called blind or ignoring flaws its basically called passion. That's what Destiny is " Passion ". The game is that good that I think those small flaws you pointed out are not that much big of a deal. I read threads these past few months and saw people upset about split screen and proximity chat but those flaws were left out for a reason. So far I know bungie is going to ace this game. Already nominated over 150 awards and broke the record at game stop for the most pre-order ever in gaming history. I know Bungie is not disappointing no one with Destiny. This is my opinion on how I feel about Destiny. Strong enough to ignore the bad and just think of the good that is there to come. Be safe guardian and trust me you are going to forget those flaws of yours.

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                  • Why can't I be a rabid fan? I mean it does stand for fanatic. And for me it can be a perfect game and still have flaws, oblivion is one of my favorite games ever and it has a shit ton of flaws.

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                    • Split- Screen an awful flaw? that is your opinion. I am glad no split screen cause I don't want to play with people using split screen. Is that selfish? Yes but I am playing for me, not for you. Thank you Bungie Voice-chat, I don't want waste my time muting people all day, I hate taking my time in Titanfall to figure out who is talking then muting, yet I want to use voice-chat for the few people that take advantage of it. Bungie gets it thank god, prox chat is a horrible idea. DCUO proves it. So Bungie thanks. So just cause people disagree with you doesn't mean they are fanboys. Some people really do agree with Bungie, they gave me things I didn't even know I wanted at first. DLCs I am happy with as long game holds my interest. I played $15 a month just to play games like WoW, FF11, FF14ARR, Rift, so paying every few months for a little extra content don't bother me.

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