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7/25/2014 9:25:15 AM
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Solution to make the Hunter Super more viable in Crucible.
Compared to the AOE supers of the Titan and Warlock, the Golden Gun doesn't stand a chance. It's basically impossible to kill a titan while he activates fist of havoc, and you cannot survive; that range is huge-even in the air. The Nova Bomb is just the same.
For the Golden Gun? Here's my take on a solution to make it more viable.
1.I think that the bullets should cause a small explosion on impact if the bullet doesn't hit an enemy guardian. Any enemy who is in blast radius of the explosions loses 50% of health and shield per hit. Therefore, 2 explosion hits would kill.
2. Also, the golden gun could make you invincible while you pull it out. I've been killed too many times while activating the gun by some titan sitting around a corner with a shotgun.
3. As the Titan and Warlock supers are capable of killing an entire team in one blast, the Hunter shouldn't be left out. Increase the amount of rounds in the Golden Gun to 4. Maybe 5. Or 6... >:D
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1 ReplyI think the biggest problem here is the skill distribution. Golden Gun, at 20, has skills that shorten it's cooldown, make it more accurate, increase the range, and make it explode and/or penetrate when it gets hits. Unfortunately, only Keyhole is available in the beta, which is the first major upgrade to GG (accuracy doesn't seem to matter unless paired with range). Titans and warlocks on the other hand have way more upgrades to their supers. Warlocks get the void zone on nova bomb as well as lingering void zones, where Titans get aftermath (damage zone where FoH goes off), a long jump for FoH while sprinting AND a talent that specifically makes them harder to kill when using FoH. As a result, locks and titans have much stronger supers at this level because they have several skills that enhance their supers and can't skill away from because they don't have any other options. GG, therefore, seems to fall behind. At 20, this won't be the case, however. A GG with explosive kills, extra range, and penetration has far more killing power than a single titan super from a much longer distance. I can't even fathom how insane it will be if you stack Intellect and take the cooldown talent instead either, making GG the fastest recharging, longest lasting primary subclass super in the entire game. Lastly, I have experienced getting oneshot by shotguns before (wasting a GG) and it sucks. Unfortunately it's just a hard way to learn how not to use the skill. It sucks, but when you come back with a shorter cooldown and longer range, you'll be making up for those lost opportunities and then some.
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5 RepliesOk how many times do I have to point this out 1. Read your skills, Hunter gunslinger progression, COMBUSTION: killing enemies with the golden gun causes them to explode 2. Pick a better time to use your super 3. No. Learn to aim #readyourskills #stopcrying
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Get the on kill explosive aoe damage perk...?? Basically a one shot kill so perked up can be insane and much more dangerous in skilled hands.
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3 RepliesYeah I think the reason almost everyone on my friends list uses the hunter is because the best and most versatile super lol. So yeah I think it's fine, if it was so bad, I wouldn't see most pro Halo, CoD, etc…running their hunter as their main class. That and as people have mentioned ivd seen more consistently large kill feeds from hunters supers than Titans or Warlocks.
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1 ReplyIt is basically impossible to not get one hit by the hunter super. I have seen more multi-kills by the the hunter pistol than the Titan or Warlock.
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The hunter is about precision if you need something to make up for missing your shot you should not be using the hunter.
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Silly silly hunter. you've got it so rough. They have AoE and I don't, but I have infinite range and control. They can wipe a room, but 3 guys shooting him and he never even gets off his super, I can pop mine and then enter a room using AA to kill'em all. I need invincibility because I am horrible about picking my fights and staying at range where the hunter is most affective leaving me open to getting OHK'd by shotguns.
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This is actually laughable - not saying the warlock super isn't strong but i die more times than not when casting it since the telegraph is pretty long and to be honest, i think the golden gun is incredible if you're half competent - you have a gun that can one shot people, also one shot with collateral too if they're lined up.
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You're an idiot
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Sure... while we are at it make my titan's FoH have the range of GG. To be fair, I'll take a one shot since it is at least a quick ability. Now I'll be able to use it on bosses which down people for getting in melee range! My warlock will take 2 Novas (not firing two at the same time but the ability to fire it two separate times.) His bomb does move slower and requires him to glow up in the air which hunter doesn't have to do. Oh, I think it's only fair my Titan gets to use his Storm Fist's electricity like a Hadouken as well. At the very least the Disintegrate one should since Defender's need a kill for that's effects to proc. [All sarcasm.] Come on... You got a great range and can take out 3 people without needing them to clump up for you. Even in control... people don't have to stand right on each other. I know its a shocker but I've survived FoH by spreading out as enemies came tot he point I captured with a teammate. I thought I was going to go Titan for launch since I don't care for Warlocks and hate 90% of the Hunter armor... honestly thinking I'll go hunter now unless Defender's gun buffing works wonders.
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The only mode in the beta is Control, which suits the other two supers. In deathmatch the Hunter one will be OP, so it doesn't need improving.
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I think it's fine the way it is personally.
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1 ReplySimply because you don't know how to control it. Don't feel shame, I'm the same on the golden gun, if you don't know the right timing to start it, it's really just a golden crap that only gets you killed, but it is the most killing streak super in the PVP as what I have been through. Try another class instead
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1 ReplySeriously? The Golden gun is the only reason I ever even use my hunter. You get 3 guaranteed kills as long as you can aim, just activate it before battle, not in the middle of one. With my warlock I generally only get one kill with my super because people don't generally stand together holding hands.
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1 ReplyThey have an ability to make enemies explode when hit. The next skill class at level 15 will give you another skill to replace your golden gun.
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4 RepliesSorry I'm gonna piggy back on your post. I forgot to add something to mine. But the warlocks ability is very hard to see when you're inside it. If they throw it out in the midst of a heated battle with another player you won't know where the damage is coming from. That purple should be more noticeable.
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The hunters golden gun suits the character class. All of the Sierra have their own disadvantages and quite frankly I find the Hunters gun to be one of the better supers. That sort definitely keeps the dogs at bay especially in the more open capture points.
