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You don't seem to understand how a gaming company or companies in general work whatsoever. 200 people aren't going to be able to do all of that so instead of trying to point at 343I for "not doing anything" how about you provide us with Devs that did every single part of the game all by themselves which i know you won't be able to do because it doesn't work like that. The Plot was written by them and that is what matters in addition to the MP set up. They wouldn't have the time to do everything else within the span of 2-4 years. "Outsourcing" is equal to contracting.
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  • Tl;dr but you are a fanboy

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  • and what relevance does this have?

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  • I don't think you do either.

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  • Seeing as i work for contractors that statement doesn't have any weight.

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  • [quote]You don't seem to understand how a gaming company or companies in general work whatsoever.[/quote] Oh, and you do? [quote]200 people aren't going to be able to do all of that[/quote]*340. Which is a large amount for a game developer. [quote]so instead of trying to point at 343I for "not doing anything" how about you provide us with Devs that did every single part of the game all by themselves which i know you won't be able to do because it doesn't work like that.[/quote]You're thinking I think outsourcing is bad. I don't. Outsourcing is terrible when you constantly make third parties do your work when you have more then enough man power in house. Especially when you take credit where it isn't due -cough-CEA-cough-. How about you show me a dev that outsources more than 343 in the span of 2 years. [quote]The Plot was written by them and that is what matters in addition to the MP set up. They wouldn't have the time to do everything else within the span of 2-4 years.[/quote]Halo 4 was in development for like 4 years. That's more than enough time to make a game. [quote]"Outsourcing" is equal to contracting.[/quote] I'm aware of that. Thanks captain obvious. Do you have anything more obvious to share?

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  • Edited by Grey101: 8/17/2013 2:34:24 PM
    [quote]Outsourcing is terrible when you constantly make third parties do your work[/quote] Nobody is "making" anybody do anything CA gets their credit for their work and seeing how a few member are ex-bungie you could see it as a sister company to 343I. I don't think you even bothered to check out their website before spreading this nonsense. 340 People isn't enough to do [b]every single thing[/b] for a video game. People have to market it,distribute it,playtest it,enhance it,etc. Some of that is done "in house" but that work gets spread to smaller companies like CA that are focused in doing one particular thing. [quote=From CA's site] Certain Affinity (CA) was founded in 2006 with the goal of creating innovative, top-quality action games. CA brings an experienced, talented group together to form one of the largest independent developers in Austin, Texas. The company’s 75+ full-time employees include veterans from dozens of successful game studios. Max Hoberman, CA’s founder, serves as President and Creative Director. A 10-year veteran of Bungie, Max was one of the key people responsible for the success of the Halo franchise, having led efforts to bring the game online as Multiplayer, Interface, and Online lead for both Halo 2 and Halo 3. The company’s leadership has taken a calculated, long-term approach to building the business, starting with multiplayer maps for the Halo series and co-development on Left 4 Dead. Since then, CA has gone on to ship more than a dozen products, which when combined have sold more than 60 million copies. [b]Notable releases include [u]co-development on Call of Duty: World at War and Call of Duty: Black Ops,[/b][/u] [i]downloadable competitive and cooperative content for Halo: Reach, Halo Anniversary and Halo 4[/i]–the best and fastest-selling game in the franchise–as well as the original strategy game Age of Booty and original action role playing game Crimson Alliance. Certain Affinity’s rare exposure to so many top-tier developers, publishers, and franchises has helped the company build a world-class team ready for the industry’s next generation of games.[/quote] So We see that A) They are getting credit for working on halo games B)They have at least one prominent former bungie member C) They even [b]co-developed[/b] TWO CoD games. I didn't even know about C until it [b]Googled them and went to their website[/b]. Seeing as they didn't say "Co-Developed Halo 4" and instead said "Created downloadable content" 343I didn't outsource shit. They told them everything they wanted for the DLC and CA Made it you are acting as if CA is completely independent from 343I and they just create what they want. I think the CoD statement is hilarious as that instantly goes against your outsourcing statements. So you might want to start retracting or restating your position. Seeing as I asked you first to provide companies that don't outsource you are up to show. by ignoring that and telling me to find evidence you are coping out and showing that you are unable to defend your own position. [quote]Especially when you take credit where it isn't due -cough-CEA-cough-.[/quote] Yet CEA is listed on CA's site with their involvement in the creation of the game. [quote] How about you show me a dev that outsources more than 343 in the span of 2 years.[/quote] How about you actually show people evidence of 343I massively outsourcing first and compare that to other companies so you can atleast have an argument. Depending on people to do your work for you is ironic as that is exactly what you are complaining about. [quote] Halo 4 was in development for like 4 years. That's more than enough time to make a game.[/quote] I am sure I said 2-4 years in which we know the first two years were spend [b]setting up the story for the entire saga[/b]. [quote] I'm aware of that. Thanks captain obvious. Do you have anything more obvious to share?[/quote] You must not understand then because you wouldn't have made such a ridiculous topic. You are pretty much complaining that the Landscaping company you hired to work on your lawn hired subcontractors to put up your fence instead of doing it themselves. Even though it cost you no extra money and the lawn crew probably doesn't know how to set up a fence.

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  • Grey 101 wins this arguement, although I think 343i would do better to do the multiplayer themselves.

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