[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Water Beetle Beware though, never let a marine in a ghost, they will betray you recklessly. I once got trapped at a checkpoint by one. When I spawned, I was instantly splattered by a marine, forcing me to restart the mission. [/quote]1. Don't blame the marines for not recognizing allies. Even the enemies do it. This is an old game and comparing it to newer Halo games so deeply is laughable. 2. Vehicle physics may have been inconsistent but they are far better than Reach. Stable hog physics is one redeeming factor. 3. the checkpoint system has always sucked. If CE had 'second to last revert by dying 5 times' like in the newer Halo games, I'm sure you'd find something else to complain about... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Water Beetle In Halo 2 I have been betrayed by marines many times with warthogs and rocket launchers, [/quote]Marine hog driving in H2 is strictly scripted. Player proximity dictates when they stop and it's not easy for them to stop without colliding with the player... This also exists in Reach. The evidence is pretty damn obvious: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKwy5rnyLmQ[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ZNyKG0lcE[/url] It was accounted for in H3, where collision by your marine driver just depletes your shield. Rarely do you get splattered by them. Nonetheless, this problem has yet to be fixed, and isolating a few cases in CE from the multitude of cases in newer Halo games is just wrong. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Water Beetle and in the Storm, I have been killed by hornets, rockets and missile pods.[/quote]That wasn't a well executed Scarab battle. Since it's a Scarab battle, it's an isolated event. Can't be compared to the above. Vehicular battle =/ Scarab battle Bring up a bad moment from Tsavo Highway, The Ark, or The Covenant that doesn't involve Scarabs. You can't. H3 driving physics were the most consistent of all the Halo games (though the hog wasn't good at splatter, flipped easily though not as much as Reach's hog...). [Edited on 07.21.2012 11:18 PM PDT]