[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Carrier ...Yet its been proven that Forerunner ships are more powerful than Star Wars armadas.[/quote] Please, direct me to that post. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] shadow 2648 they also think that a star wars ship can take a hit from a supper mac and not take damage... Like i said. [/quote] Basic Star Destroyer shields can take a minumum of 6X10^19 joules as far as can be calculated, a super MAC delivers 2.16X10^20 joules. Quite possible that it would break the shielding. The standard MACs would be entirely useless. Anyway, to bring things to a close here, I'll re-illustrate why it is that the Haloverse will lose for you. First, choose which one of these universes you want to operate with: [quote]A) True Halo and Star Wars total universes: Everything to ever canonically exist in the respective universes is included in the battle.[/quote][quote]B) Latest representation of Halo and Star Wars universes: Everything which currently canonically exists at the latest chronological point in their universe.[/quote] If you choose A, then every Force user ever combines their power to rip the Halo fleets apart at the molecular level, create vast Force-lightning storms to destroy the fleets, create wormholes to swallow the fleets, use their own ships against them, or mind control the majority of them. All from a safe distance, simply sitting around in nice chairs. If you choose B, then the Halo troops have no Forerunner or Precursor, they have a recently decimated Covenant and UNSC, and no Flood to speak of. They then have to deal with the more powerful Star Wars forces knowing every action, every plan, every attack or defense they set up, before they even conceive of it. They will be playing a chess game with someone who can't just read their minds, but also see the future, and control many of their minds. The Halo universe holds every disadvantage, and will lose. That is ultimately the situation. There are two scenarios, in both of them Halo loses. That's it. There's nothing else to say, because it's all been said. There is nothing else to bring up, there are no new angles to play, this is the top of the pyramid for both sides. At present, Halo simply loses.[/quote] First of all, if B is chosen, only weak minded can have their mind controlled. And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity. The elites also have the covenant technology. Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars. While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast. And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires. Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners. The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark. Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.