[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Steve Valhalla and Standoff = spiritual successors to BG /thread.[/quote] Which boils down to "Valhalla and Standoff came after Blood Gulch." Yeah, that really does put a good cap on a detailed and well thought out thread. Especially since it doesn't [i]really[/i] have anything to do with the subject matter. The thread discusses the three maps' differences. They may attempt to fill a gap, but they still aren't Blood Gulch. Cold Storage is the spiritual successor to Chill Out. Yet they are much closer (i.e. remake of the other) to each other than Valhalla/Standoff/Blood Gulch.