About the two World Wars?
I mean I've heard that England does a brief glance at the revolutionary war so what does Germany teach about the two World Wars?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] monitor 16807 Since when is Germany to blame for the first world war? Have I missed something? If anything they were on the "good" side in that war.[/quote] There were no good or bad guys in that war.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lsbd [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] monitor 16807 Since when is Germany to blame for the first world war? Have I missed something? If anything they were on the "good" side in that war.[/quote] It's often been referred to as a "Powder-keg that's waiting to explode". If anything, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the cause.[/quote]No, France's alliance with Russia and its attempts to shift the political climate by weakening the Central powers caused WWI.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] monitor 16807 Since when is Germany to blame for the first world war? Have I missed something? If anything they were on the "good" side in that war.[/quote] It's often been referred to as a "Powder-keg that's waiting to explode". If anything, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the cause.
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Since when is Germany to blame for the first world war? Have I missed something? If anything they were on the "good" side in that war.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Co M4N [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Co M4N [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote] Can you give a source on this? If you can't then where the hell are you getting that idea from?[/quote] teacher[/quote] Yeah cause that was a great answer to my question.[/quote] Sorry, but thats the truth, my hist. teacher mentioned this in class one day and said that she talked to a teacher about this while visiting england
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Every country has a dark part of its history. America had massive inequality until the 60's, Germany started some wars. We have to learn from that though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Viper Skills [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cart of Onions [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Dripik What does America say about the Vietnam "armed conflict"????[/quote]Very bad things actually, it's kind of odd how we love to -blam!- on ourselves.[/quote]These days it's simply the "cool" thing to hate on America, even if you are an American.[/quote]Most every country seems to have its "darkest hour" . . . or fair share of darkest hour(s). Every peoples should become aware of what their nation has done, I think.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Viper Skills I think it would be in their best interest to begin teaching their youth about it. After all, the newer generations weren't alive for it and can more easily accept the fact their nation has a rough history (which nation doesn't?) I would find it awkward to be a German these days. Or perhaps a German youth who has to learn via the internet that his nation was responsible for the only two World Wars to date. The Russians don't shy away from their history or genocides and nor should the Germans. Interestingly enough, the brutal history of Russia is actually infused with the identity of being a Russian in the first place which is the polar opposite of what Germany seems to be doing by not teaching their youth about World War II.[/quote] As I understand it, the German government has made it mandatory in most schools to learn (if not briefly) about both wars. Something about not wanting to have it happen again. Most Germans are embarrassed to hold their own flag nowadays. [Edited on 12.06.2012 5:15 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cart of Onions [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Dripik What does America say about the Vietnam "armed conflict"????[/quote]Very bad things actually, it's kind of odd how we love to -blam!- on ourselves.[/quote] These days it's simply the "cool" thing to hate on America, even if you are an American.
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I think it would be in their best interest to begin teaching their youth about it. After all, the newer generations weren't alive for it and can more easily accept the fact their nation has a rough history (which nation doesn't?) I would find it awkward to be a German these days. Or perhaps a German youth who has to learn via the internet that his nation was responsible for the only two World Wars to date. The Russians don't shy away from their history or genocides and nor should the Germans. Interestingly enough, the brutal history of Russia is actually infused with the identity of being a Russian in the first place which is the polar opposite of what Germany seems to be doing by not teaching their youth about World War II.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Dripik What does America say about the Vietnam "armed conflict"????[/quote]Very bad things actually, it's kind of odd how we love to -blam!- on ourselves.
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Im pretty sure they just kind of skip over that part.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Co M4N [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote] Can you give a source on this? If you can't then where the hell are you getting that idea from?[/quote] teacher[/quote] Yeah cause that was a great answer to my question.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BOB THE DOCTER [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote]what exactly is "glanced" over?..[/quote] like a brief section or something. Where they don't spend a lot of time on it[/quote]i meant which topic..
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Co M4N [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote] Can you give a source on this? If you can't then where the hell are you getting that idea from?[/quote] teacher
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Viper Skills [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lsbd Originally, they ignored it. Nowadays, they actually go over it.[/quote] Do they? Interesting. Last I heard they still ignored it.[/quote][/quote] From what I've been told from a friend who is attending a school in Ostfriesland, they do indeed.
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*Little Jimstaffel German brings a flag to class* Teacher: "Put that away before anyone sees it!" *Little Jimstaffel puts the flag in his backpack" Little Jimstaffel: "Herr Teacher, why is it wrong for me to show my patriotic pride through carrying a flag around?" Teacher: "Once upon a time, a little boy just like you brought a flag to school. Do you know what happened next?" *Little Jimstaffel shakes his head* Teacher: "We committed mass genocide and started a war that spanned continents! NOW NEVER EVER BRING A FLAG OUT IN PUBLIC EVER AGAIN!"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Viper Skills [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lsbd Originally, they ignored it. Nowadays, they actually go over it.[/quote]Do they? Interesting. Last I heard they still ignored it.[/quote]On the other hand, I've heard, that some are still ashamed about the wars and the genocide, even still. [Edited on 12.06.2012 5:07 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Viper Skills [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lsbd Originally, they ignored it. Nowadays, they actually go over it.[/quote] Do they? Interesting. Last I heard they still ignored it.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lsbd Originally, they ignored it. Nowadays, they actually go over it.[/quote] Do they? Interesting. Last I heard they still ignored it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote] Can you give a source on this? If you can't then where the hell are you getting that idea from?
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Originally, they ignored it. Nowadays, they actually go over it.
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I think they have to teach the kids about everything germany did in the war. I think they said in the show I watched "we have to make sure things like this never happens agian" or something along those lines.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BOB THE DOCTER [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote] but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote]what exactly is "glanced" over?..[/quote] like a brief section or something. Where they don't spend a lot of time on it
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef I assume the things that happened during the Two World Wars.[/quote]but do they teach it like England does where they glance over it and don't teach a lot about it[/quote]These things differ ,even in local areas I'm sure they do not neglect it, especially considering how impactful it was on their society and the rest of the world in the least century. [Edited on 12.06.2012 5:01 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Dripik What does America say about the Vietnam "armed conflict"????[/quote] no, we go into the Vietnam war, we talk about major battles, etc.