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12/3/2012 12:44:04 AM
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What is the policy on NSFW threads in groups?
Like I have one in my group but I've been deleting anything that's actual nudity.
What is the actual policy on this? Are there things that are acceptable? Or should I just nuke the thread now?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Atomic Tea 1: And is thus, also political in nature. Again, against the rules.[/quote]I am not discussing politics in any way, I am discussing law and related ethics. [quote]2: Nudity (exposed skin, since you want me to be ultra-specific) falls under the "What is safe, and not safe for work" category. It doesn't matter what your place of employment is. Bungie.net has members that are under the age of 18, and thus you cannot post that kind of material, even if it is considered "safe" in your line of work. Why? Because it violates U.S. law and thus the Bungie Code of Conduct.[/quote]We're talking about adult materials, not nudity in the workplace, right? I am unfamiliar with a law that prohibits viewing adult film in the workplace, or the viewing of adult films by someone under the age of 18 (not to be confused with adult films depicting someone under the age of 18). Could you tell me which laws these are? I find this hard to believe. [quote]I'm [u]guessing[/u] nude works of art are also covered under this "NSFW" banner.[/quote][/quote]Again, what workplace?
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OP's question has been answered and it looks like this discussion is straying. If you want to start a separate thread to truly delve into what the forum rules/CoC/ToU mean as to profane/vulgar/obscene/NSFW content, feel free to make a new thread about it. Thanks.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duck duck DEATH [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Atomic Tea Don't bring religious beliefs into this, please. You clearly know what I, and the rules, mean about exposed skin.[/quote]While such beliefs are religious to some, in certain areas of the world it is a legal matter. I don't know what you mean about exposed skin, and the rules only express to post material that is "safe for work", nothing at all about exposed skin. Honestly I'm under the impression you're either making all this up or have never read the rules. Whose workplace dictates safety? What if I work in adult media, or a strip club? Such a perfectly acceptable industries. While the Code of Conduct Children's Edition is rather useless, both it and the Terms of Use state not to violate U.S. Law. Obscenity is not protected in the United States; however, certain courts clearly define such "adult" materials as legal. [/quote] 1: And is thus, also political in nature. Again, against the rules. 2: Nudity (exposed skin, since you want me to be ultra-specific) falls under the "What is safe, and not safe for work" category. It doesn't matter what your place of employment is. Bungie.net has members that are under the age of 18, and thus you cannot post that kind of material, even if it is considered "safe" in your line of work. Why? Because it violates U.S. law and thus the Bungie Code of Conduct. I'm [u]guessing[/u] nude works of art are also covered under this "NSFW" banner.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Atomic Tea Don't bring religious beliefs into this, please. You clearly know what I, and the rules, mean about exposed skin.[/quote]While such beliefs are religious to some, in certain areas of the world it is a legal matter. The Terms of Use state to not "Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent or unlawful topic, name, material or information." Should not the lack of Burkas be banned as such is obscene? I don't know what you mean about exposed skin, and the rules only express to post material that is "safe for work", nothing at all about exposed skin. Honestly I'm under the impression you're either making all this up or have never read the rules. Whose workplace dictates safety? What if I work in adult media, or a strip club? Such a perfectly acceptable industries. While the Code of Conduct Children's Edition is rather useless, both it and the Terms of Use state not to violate U.S. Law. Obscenity is not protected in the United States; however, certain courts clearly define such "adult" materials as legal. [Edited on 12.02.2012 6:05 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duck duck DEATH [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Atomic Tea Just use common sense. If you think you can't post it, you probably can't.[/quote]What terrible advice. So if a woman is not wearing a Burka, which is clearly an explicit obscenity, should I be unable to post it?[/quote] Don't bring religious beliefs into this, please. You clearly know what I, and the rules, mean about exposed skin.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1]Achronos[/url] destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I think the instance you're referring to was a a single thread, not a group, and Achronos deleted just the thread. He has, however, deleted other private groups that were solely dedicated to NSFW content. OP, it's a good question. In general, NSFW links are still prohibited even in private groups. Grown-up discussions about adults-only topics are generally viewed with a bit more leniency. If you want to be safe, avoid the gray areas.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Atomic Tea Just use common sense. If you think you can't post it, you probably can't.[/quote]What terrible advice. So if a woman is not wearing a Burka, which is clearly an explicit obscenity, should I be unable to post it?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1]Achronos[/url] destroyed it. The end. [/quote]Hardly. [Edited on 12.02.2012 5:45 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules? [/quote] No boobs or exposed ass. Raunchy bikini's are fine as long as they ain't see-through. Just use common sense. If you think you can't post it, you probably can't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1]Achronos[/url] destroyed it. The end. [/quote] Good, Bungie.net is not the kind of place for that material. [/quote] Don't worry, skenny. Your virgin eyes will likely never grace the inner workings of MM. ©
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just use the nsfw rule, but let the workplace be a nudie bar.
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I'm always a fan of the "don't ask don't tell" rule.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1]Achronos[/url] destroyed it. The end. [/quote] Good, Bungie.net is not the kind of place for that material.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BlackHeaven [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?[/quote] I can't quite say, but if it's in a group I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. Only site admins and get in there without permission and mods have no poweres in groups. [/quote]I know but I don't wanna get the group nuked.[/quote] "No nudity".[/quote]Yeah I guess I'll just have to keep it like that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. [/quote]It was a thread of art. Vases and everything mate.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?[/quote] I can't quite say, but if it's in a group I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. Only site admins and get in there without permission and mods have no poweres in groups. [/quote]I know but I don't wanna get the group nuked.[/quote] Have it be a rule (stated outside the main rules) that any threads containing NSFW have a title unrelated to innapropreate things. It's also highly unlikely that anyone who can do anything will find it. I still think there are much better ways of storing -blam!-ography than this site. [Edited on 12.02.2012 4:55 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?[/quote] I can't quite say, but if it's in a group I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. Only site admins and get in there without permission and mods have no poweres in groups. [/quote]I know but I don't wanna get the group nuked.[/quote] "No nudity".
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?[/quote] I can't quite say, but if it's in a group I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. Only site admins and get in there without permission and mods have no poweres in groups. [/quote]I know but I don't wanna get the group nuked.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?[/quote] I can't quite say, but if it's in a group I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. Only site admins and get in there without permission and mods have no poweres in groups.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand Like I have one in my group but I've been deleting anything that's actual nudity. What is the actual policy on this? Are there things that are acceptable? Or should I just nuke the thread now?[/quote]The [url=http://www.bungie.net/help/code_of_conduct.aspx]Code of Conduct[/url] and [url=http://www.bungie.net/help/terms_of_use.aspx]Terms of Use[/url] still apply for private groups. Note: Politics and religion may be discussed in private groups (e.g. The Black Chapter), which is an exception to the Code of Conduct. [Edited on 12.02.2012 4:55 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiter 739 There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day Archronos destroyed it. The end. [/quote]I know but where is the line drawn? We've had "le sexy wimmin" threads on The Flood and they've been fine so long as they were following a certain set of rules. What are the actual rules?
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You keep that kind of stuff on the DL <.<
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There was once a Mythic group that consisted of -blam!-ography. One day [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1]Achronos[/url] destroyed it. The end. [Edited on 12.02.2012 4:46 PM PST]
